Let’s pick a white guy and get it over with. It sucks, but that’s where this country still is. Stop pretending about it. Democracy and valid elections will be totally gone by then anyways, but.
EviLincoln on
The USA is still far too racist and sexist for her to stand any semblance of a chance at presidency. It’s unfortunate but the only realistic way the Dems can win in this political climate is with a likeable white guy
ChopperChange on
The title is a bit misleading. It was the *interviewer* who asked if she’d make a formidable presidential candidate. Bernie said yes and then listed off the reasons why, he didn’t “float” the idea, the interviewer did. That said, I agree with his answer and I’d definitely vote for her if she ran.
xGothgirlsrulex on
Would vote for AOC so quick. Dems desperately need the new gen. In fact we should probably stop calling it dems and something new at this point.
GreatGojira on
As much as I adore her, but no. I don’t think she could win a presidential race. She would be better for Senate.
Andy Beshesr I think would have the best chance of winning. He’s a Democratic governor for Kentucky who is one of the most popular governor’s now. I really hope he has ambition to at least try in 2028.
mps1729 on
That’s what primaries are for. She is welcome to throw her hat in the ring, and if she wins the primary, I’ll vote for her in the general
Aggravating_Map745 on
For the love of god no. Haven’t we learned our lesson yet?
drice99 on
I love Bernie, and I love love love AOC, but America is not ready for her. We just had the easiest open book test in American history, and we all just completely failed because America couldn’t handle a brown lady with a funny laugh. I hate this timeline
BigGrooveBox on
I’d vote for her, but let’s be honest, how effective has she been as a politician? She was supposed to be the gap that bridged the Dems and the left, has she done that? Or every time that it’s mattered has she been whipped back into party line? Iron dome funding, for example. Her voting against it may not have changed the result, but it’s still symbolic of her unwillingness to go against the party when it matters most. And then consider her reputation at large, would most Americans vote for her, given that she has been painted as some crazy leftist since she started, despite, again, her record not being that? She’s left of the Dems, and again, I’d vote for her. But we need a robust primary contest to decide what’s going to happen. And in the meantime, we need to focus on gaining ground in local and special elections, not waxing poetic about what the Dems might do in 3 years.
Pristine-Ant-464 on
We seriously need to stop conflating “electability” with moderation. Obama was the progressive/exciting candidate – he won twice. Hillary was the moderate choice in 2016 – she lost. Biden was the moderate choice and won the 2020 EC by 70,000 of the 81 million votes cast. Had it not been for Trump’s massive mishandling of COVID he would’ve lost. Kamala ran as a centrist – she lost.
PrideofPicktown on
I hate to say this, and I would absolutely vote for AOC against any hint of maga, but the Dems need to run the whitest, straightest, protestantest, middle-of-the-road man they can find. We need to right the ship, not rick the boat.
I would have no problems with a female president, a gay president, a non-Christian president. I do have a problem with a thirty-four times convicted felon who has been adjudicated a sexual predator and who is currently aiming the greatest military force humankind has ever know against American citizens sitting as president.
Arathorn-the-Wise on
Good one, but America isn’t electing a woman as to be president. Especially not in this political climate. The DNC is going to hang themselves and nominate Newsom anyways.
TheHoundsRevenge on
Hard pass. but only because we need to win. Wish she could but she’s 100% gonna lose if she’s the nominee.
Ill_Act_1855 on
I like AOC, but I think she’d be better off going for Schumer’s senate seat in 2028, gaining a bit more experience there, and then running for president in the future after that
krenpep on
That idea has been tried twice. She’s a woman. Americans are not ready to elect a woman as President. That is the reality we live in.
jmaneater on
AOC vs couch fucker?
Thad_Ivanov on
Hillary and Kamala worked out so well for the dems.
I actually kinda like AOC for a leftist, But the american people wont vote for her.
badwolf1013 on
I like her better as a legislator. At least for now. I’d rather see her make a Senate run.
I think a run for the Executive Branch would be a little too “Peter Principle” right now.
trainwreck42 on
I’d vote for her in a heartbeat and support her campaign any way I could, but I really hope she runs for a senate seat (and I really *really* hope Schumer fucking retires).
-marlowe- on
Nobody wants this
Mercdecember84 on
I want her to unseat Schumer in the Senate first
smiama36 on
No. No, no, no, no, no. Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Bernie… sit down. As Patton Oswalt said on election night in 2016: What I’ve learned so far tonight: America is WAAAAAAAAY more sexist than it is racist. And it’s pretty fucking racist. We couldn’t put Hillary over, we couldn’t put Kamala over… what makes you think AOC would be different? All those Republicans who left the party because they couldn’t stomach Trump would gladly run back to the right if you put someone that far left on the ballot. Whether progressives like it or not, the country is not far left. It is center-right. And because the far left doesn’t vote like they want the country to move left… it doesn’t.
Kaizen2468 on
Yeah but see Americans hate women and will not vote for one. At least several million people would rather vote for an orange conman sex abuser than a woman.
No matter how good or qualified or well meaning they are, it won’t matter. We’ve seen it twice so far, losing to the biggest scumbag I think I’ve ever seen in my life.
AlternativeLack1954 on
I mean. Would she be a good president? Yes. Would she win? Unfortunately no.
Epo1337 on
Don’t do this democrats for the love of god
Megotaku on
It would be the biggest mistake in the history of the progressive caucus to run AOC in 2028 and anyone who thinks this is a good idea is huffing so much copium, it’s causing terminal brain damage. First, she’s a congresswoman, for starters, which means she has to run concurrently with her congressional re-election campaign. This is why **governors** and **senators** run for president, not house reps. Second, she’s a house rep from New York. It’s not even **legal** in her state for her to run for congress and the presidency concurrently. This means she has to surrender her seat to even run for president. So, if she loses, and she almost certainly would lose both the primary and general, her career in politics is **over** and the progressive caucus loses their most influential member.
Third, the DNC is not the RNC. It is a significantly less democratic organization, much more beholden to donors, and much less responsive to the interests of their constituents. Think about how MAGA and the Tea Party slapped around their representatives to get what they wanted and how little the Democrats fight for anything they run on. It’s always small, incremental victories, often only procedural. Biden gave up on any meaningful student loan forgiveness or protections the moment the courts said “no.” Harris walked back 90% of her progressive platform the moment the primaries were over. AOC doesn’t have the interparty sway to make the DNC and their reps fulfill her agenda at the expense of the oligarchs that own them.
If AOC wants a path forward, she can run for Schumer’s seat. That’s where she can build real power and connections. Not YOLOing into POTUS.
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She’d get my vote.
Let’s pick a white guy and get it over with. It sucks, but that’s where this country still is. Stop pretending about it. Democracy and valid elections will be totally gone by then anyways, but.
The USA is still far too racist and sexist for her to stand any semblance of a chance at presidency. It’s unfortunate but the only realistic way the Dems can win in this political climate is with a likeable white guy
The title is a bit misleading. It was the *interviewer* who asked if she’d make a formidable presidential candidate. Bernie said yes and then listed off the reasons why, he didn’t “float” the idea, the interviewer did. That said, I agree with his answer and I’d definitely vote for her if she ran.
Would vote for AOC so quick. Dems desperately need the new gen. In fact we should probably stop calling it dems and something new at this point.
As much as I adore her, but no. I don’t think she could win a presidential race. She would be better for Senate.
Andy Beshesr I think would have the best chance of winning. He’s a Democratic governor for Kentucky who is one of the most popular governor’s now. I really hope he has ambition to at least try in 2028.
That’s what primaries are for. She is welcome to throw her hat in the ring, and if she wins the primary, I’ll vote for her in the general
For the love of god no. Haven’t we learned our lesson yet?
I love Bernie, and I love love love AOC, but America is not ready for her. We just had the easiest open book test in American history, and we all just completely failed because America couldn’t handle a brown lady with a funny laugh. I hate this timeline
I’d vote for her, but let’s be honest, how effective has she been as a politician? She was supposed to be the gap that bridged the Dems and the left, has she done that? Or every time that it’s mattered has she been whipped back into party line? Iron dome funding, for example. Her voting against it may not have changed the result, but it’s still symbolic of her unwillingness to go against the party when it matters most. And then consider her reputation at large, would most Americans vote for her, given that she has been painted as some crazy leftist since she started, despite, again, her record not being that? She’s left of the Dems, and again, I’d vote for her. But we need a robust primary contest to decide what’s going to happen. And in the meantime, we need to focus on gaining ground in local and special elections, not waxing poetic about what the Dems might do in 3 years.
We seriously need to stop conflating “electability” with moderation. Obama was the progressive/exciting candidate – he won twice. Hillary was the moderate choice in 2016 – she lost. Biden was the moderate choice and won the 2020 EC by 70,000 of the 81 million votes cast. Had it not been for Trump’s massive mishandling of COVID he would’ve lost. Kamala ran as a centrist – she lost.
I hate to say this, and I would absolutely vote for AOC against any hint of maga, but the Dems need to run the whitest, straightest, protestantest, middle-of-the-road man they can find. We need to right the ship, not rick the boat.
I would have no problems with a female president, a gay president, a non-Christian president. I do have a problem with a thirty-four times convicted felon who has been adjudicated a sexual predator and who is currently aiming the greatest military force humankind has ever know against American citizens sitting as president.
Good one, but America isn’t electing a woman as to be president. Especially not in this political climate. The DNC is going to hang themselves and nominate Newsom anyways.
Hard pass. but only because we need to win. Wish she could but she’s 100% gonna lose if she’s the nominee.
I like AOC, but I think she’d be better off going for Schumer’s senate seat in 2028, gaining a bit more experience there, and then running for president in the future after that
That idea has been tried twice. She’s a woman. Americans are not ready to elect a woman as President. That is the reality we live in.
AOC vs couch fucker?
Hillary and Kamala worked out so well for the dems.
I actually kinda like AOC for a leftist, But the american people wont vote for her.
I like her better as a legislator. At least for now. I’d rather see her make a Senate run.
I think a run for the Executive Branch would be a little too “Peter Principle” right now.
I’d vote for her in a heartbeat and support her campaign any way I could, but I really hope she runs for a senate seat (and I really *really* hope Schumer fucking retires).
Nobody wants this
I want her to unseat Schumer in the Senate first
No. No, no, no, no, no. Not a snowball’s chance in hell. Bernie… sit down. As Patton Oswalt said on election night in 2016: What I’ve learned so far tonight: America is WAAAAAAAAY more sexist than it is racist. And it’s pretty fucking racist. We couldn’t put Hillary over, we couldn’t put Kamala over… what makes you think AOC would be different? All those Republicans who left the party because they couldn’t stomach Trump would gladly run back to the right if you put someone that far left on the ballot. Whether progressives like it or not, the country is not far left. It is center-right. And because the far left doesn’t vote like they want the country to move left… it doesn’t.
Yeah but see Americans hate women and will not vote for one. At least several million people would rather vote for an orange conman sex abuser than a woman.
No matter how good or qualified or well meaning they are, it won’t matter. We’ve seen it twice so far, losing to the biggest scumbag I think I’ve ever seen in my life.
I mean. Would she be a good president? Yes. Would she win? Unfortunately no.
Don’t do this democrats for the love of god
It would be the biggest mistake in the history of the progressive caucus to run AOC in 2028 and anyone who thinks this is a good idea is huffing so much copium, it’s causing terminal brain damage. First, she’s a congresswoman, for starters, which means she has to run concurrently with her congressional re-election campaign. This is why **governors** and **senators** run for president, not house reps. Second, she’s a house rep from New York. It’s not even **legal** in her state for her to run for congress and the presidency concurrently. This means she has to surrender her seat to even run for president. So, if she loses, and she almost certainly would lose both the primary and general, her career in politics is **over** and the progressive caucus loses their most influential member.
Third, the DNC is not the RNC. It is a significantly less democratic organization, much more beholden to donors, and much less responsive to the interests of their constituents. Think about how MAGA and the Tea Party slapped around their representatives to get what they wanted and how little the Democrats fight for anything they run on. It’s always small, incremental victories, often only procedural. Biden gave up on any meaningful student loan forgiveness or protections the moment the courts said “no.” Harris walked back 90% of her progressive platform the moment the primaries were over. AOC doesn’t have the interparty sway to make the DNC and their reps fulfill her agenda at the expense of the oligarchs that own them.
If AOC wants a path forward, she can run for Schumer’s seat. That’s where she can build real power and connections. Not YOLOing into POTUS.