100% yes absolutely. Trump’s cutting of USAID alone is estimated to kill like 14 million people in the next ten years. That one haphazard cut he probably barely thought about is going to give Donald Trump a body count nearly twice that of Hitler’s holocaust if nothing changes for the people impacted.
And we aren’t even getting into covid shit, loss of healthcare, loss of anti-poverty programs, his increasing authoritarianism, ICE bullshit, and the apparent wars he wants to start with like south and central America.
bsport48 on
Very likely
TotalEclipse19 on
Most likely yes. Absolute garbage can of an administration. I hope the next Democrat administration grows a spine and holds these thugs accountable.
TearResident8294 on
shocks me everytime this questioned is asked…..it’s like asking do we breathe?
Significant-Bat-9782 on
yes and its a sacrifice they are willing to make
Travelerdude on
Since when has the presidency been anything close to normal?
PoetryJunior1808 on
The difference is that it is in the wide open. Has the US killed innocents? Absolutely. It at least had the decency to try to cover up the crimes. Not now. Trump thinks that is being “tough”. That isn’t tough. That’s a war crime.
FootlongDonut on
Even if the guys on the boats are carrying drugs it’s still murder.
I’m not going to mourn for criminals but it’s terrifying that the government is just bombing foreign boats without any due process.
Entry-Party on
Yes. It has been for decades! The U.S. involves itself in other nation’s affairs and sends in the military, or acts covertly to achieve what it believes is best, but only out of self interest. These involvements have led to the deaths and maiming of thousands of innocent civilians, and thousands of military personnel. Under the current regime, not only is the U.S. killing innocent people abroad, but due to the actions of Trump, American citizens are being deprived of the basics of life, which will inevitably lead to deaths. Trump is also depriving military veterans of benefits.
glass_gravy on
Yes
shk2096 on
Exports death and violence
invalidpassword on
It appears so. If they start bombing on land, the collateral damage will be enormous. Trump doesn’t ever put much value on lives that aren’t Christian and white unless they’re in Israel.
verone3784 on
No, the US isn’t killing innocent people. It’s **murdering** innocent people, there’s a difference.
Regardless of whether you’re driving a boat that’s packed out with tuna or cocaine, you are innocent until you have due process and are found guilty in a court of law.
An airstrike is not due process.
DT-Sodium on
Innocent or not is not the subject, you don’t kill people unless they pose an immediate threat period. Reflecting on whether they desserve it or not is the beginning of accepting what they are doing.
Upbeat_Ad5622 on
since 1776
Embarrassed-Track-21 on
When is the US not!
Temporary-Daikon7369 on
Always
DefendOurRepublic on
Yup. Always have, but now they aren’t hiding it
WiredPiano on
The righteous USA killing innocents home, abroad, and the open seas. A truth as old as time.
Rushofthewildwind on
if you have to ask…
BillG8s on
Ummmm I’m I still living in a country of “innocent until proven guilty” right? So you take out the due process part and… yup, we are killing innocent people because they have not had their day in court.
everything_is_bad on
In multiple ways
urbanmark on
We don’t know, they are never given a fair trial.
badwolf1013 on
Probably. We likely won’t know, because there was no trial or conviction. Just executions.
And that’s the real point here. Deadly force is being used without cause.
Innocent or not: this is not how our justice system is supposed to work.
NoneMoreBLK on
Undoubtedly yes.
1ns3rtn1ckn4m3 on
Yes. Next question
Disastrous-Ad1857 on
Yes, since day one of this country’s founding, we have been killing innocent people.
GrandPaDon1961 on
Not bothering to justify with facts would indicate yes
Bannonpants on
At this point it’s Trump. He also fucks kids
HuTaosTwinTails on
Yes, ICE, Trump and MAGA are.
Small-Explorer7025 on
Almost certainly.
Interesting_Low_3765 on
We are, the attacks on boats are being done without any evidence. We also aided Israel in it’s genocide. We are culpable. We cut off USAID as well which hurt millions on top of that.
It’s not just this administration, we’ve gotten involved in things that we shouldn’t have got decades that innocent people have been killed in. From drone strikes to armed conflicts. Our meddling kills people.
ThenOwl9 on
yes.
That_Dependent_3265 on
Yes
PJMFett on
Always has been
No_Proof_2736 on
Yes – and I have to call out the irony of the republicans position on guns vs drugs. With guns the problem is always the users not the guns themselves. With drugs they blame the distributors and never the people who buy and use dangerous drugs.
OneFrogArmy on
That was rhetorical, right?
KommanderKeen-a42 on
Yes. And they admit to it.
Earl_I_Lark on
If your rule of law says ‘innocent until proven guilty’, then these people on the boats re innocent. This is unlawful execution – or murder, to put another spin on it. By proxy, your president is a murder as well as a rapist
SmoothJazziz1 on
43 so far, given he hasn’t asked Congress to declare war and they refuse to provide evidence against them – it is, in effect, state sponsored terrorism. Could you imagine if another country did this to boats leaving Miami?
I’m unclear as to why this hasn’t been brought to the international criminal court system, yet. Also, not sure why Republicans, other than Rand Paul, have stood up and said anything. Regardless of how you feel about illegal drugs coming into this country, there is a legal way to handle this. If this were a Democrat President doing this, he would have been impeached already.
This is a criminal act and everyone involved should be held accountable. Period.
43 Comments
Yes
***Murdering*** innocent people.
Always has been
100% yes absolutely. Trump’s cutting of USAID alone is estimated to kill like 14 million people in the next ten years. That one haphazard cut he probably barely thought about is going to give Donald Trump a body count nearly twice that of Hitler’s holocaust if nothing changes for the people impacted.
And we aren’t even getting into covid shit, loss of healthcare, loss of anti-poverty programs, his increasing authoritarianism, ICE bullshit, and the apparent wars he wants to start with like south and central America.
Very likely
Most likely yes. Absolute garbage can of an administration. I hope the next Democrat administration grows a spine and holds these thugs accountable.
shocks me everytime this questioned is asked…..it’s like asking do we breathe?
yes and its a sacrifice they are willing to make
Since when has the presidency been anything close to normal?
The difference is that it is in the wide open. Has the US killed innocents? Absolutely. It at least had the decency to try to cover up the crimes. Not now. Trump thinks that is being “tough”. That isn’t tough. That’s a war crime.
Even if the guys on the boats are carrying drugs it’s still murder.
I’m not going to mourn for criminals but it’s terrifying that the government is just bombing foreign boats without any due process.
Yes. It has been for decades! The U.S. involves itself in other nation’s affairs and sends in the military, or acts covertly to achieve what it believes is best, but only out of self interest. These involvements have led to the deaths and maiming of thousands of innocent civilians, and thousands of military personnel. Under the current regime, not only is the U.S. killing innocent people abroad, but due to the actions of Trump, American citizens are being deprived of the basics of life, which will inevitably lead to deaths. Trump is also depriving military veterans of benefits.
Yes
Exports death and violence
It appears so. If they start bombing on land, the collateral damage will be enormous. Trump doesn’t ever put much value on lives that aren’t Christian and white unless they’re in Israel.
No, the US isn’t killing innocent people. It’s **murdering** innocent people, there’s a difference.
Regardless of whether you’re driving a boat that’s packed out with tuna or cocaine, you are innocent until you have due process and are found guilty in a court of law.
An airstrike is not due process.
Innocent or not is not the subject, you don’t kill people unless they pose an immediate threat period. Reflecting on whether they desserve it or not is the beginning of accepting what they are doing.
since 1776
When is the US not!
Always
Yup. Always have, but now they aren’t hiding it
The righteous USA killing innocents home, abroad, and the open seas. A truth as old as time.
if you have to ask…
Ummmm I’m I still living in a country of “innocent until proven guilty” right? So you take out the due process part and… yup, we are killing innocent people because they have not had their day in court.
In multiple ways
We don’t know, they are never given a fair trial.
Probably. We likely won’t know, because there was no trial or conviction. Just executions.
And that’s the real point here. Deadly force is being used without cause.
Innocent or not: this is not how our justice system is supposed to work.
Undoubtedly yes.
Yes. Next question
Yes, since day one of this country’s founding, we have been killing innocent people.
Not bothering to justify with facts would indicate yes
At this point it’s Trump. He also fucks kids
Yes, ICE, Trump and MAGA are.
Almost certainly.
We are, the attacks on boats are being done without any evidence. We also aided Israel in it’s genocide. We are culpable. We cut off USAID as well which hurt millions on top of that.
It’s not just this administration, we’ve gotten involved in things that we shouldn’t have got decades that innocent people have been killed in. From drone strikes to armed conflicts. Our meddling kills people.
yes.
Yes
Always has been
Yes – and I have to call out the irony of the republicans position on guns vs drugs. With guns the problem is always the users not the guns themselves. With drugs they blame the distributors and never the people who buy and use dangerous drugs.
That was rhetorical, right?
Yes. And they admit to it.
If your rule of law says ‘innocent until proven guilty’, then these people on the boats re innocent. This is unlawful execution – or murder, to put another spin on it. By proxy, your president is a murder as well as a rapist
43 so far, given he hasn’t asked Congress to declare war and they refuse to provide evidence against them – it is, in effect, state sponsored terrorism. Could you imagine if another country did this to boats leaving Miami?
I’m unclear as to why this hasn’t been brought to the international criminal court system, yet. Also, not sure why Republicans, other than Rand Paul, have stood up and said anything. Regardless of how you feel about illegal drugs coming into this country, there is a legal way to handle this. If this were a Democrat President doing this, he would have been impeached already.
This is a criminal act and everyone involved should be held accountable. Period.