“There is still no official agreement within a group of Senate centrists that have been privately meeting to discuss a shutdown exit ramp. But multiple sources involved in discussions told CNN that a deal could be reached as soon as this week to pass a temporary stopgap bill to reopen the government alongside several full-year spending bills — with a promise of a future vote to extend billions in enhanced Obamacare subsidies.”
taxhellFML on
Schumer willing to let his caucus cave with zero concessions from Republicans. In fact, he will gleefully give up any and all possible leverage for a “future vote” on healthcare.
They don’t give a SHIT about your premiums. Schumer is content with a performative end to the shutdown.
Contact your legislators. Contact Schumer to let him know what you think about his total lack of discipline over his caucus.
Sumofabatch2 on
For anyone that’s been paying attention, the democratic “leaders” aren’t democrats. They’re corporate and Zionist performative shills working with republicans in service of their masters. This shouldn’t be news but of xourse it is and makes reasonable dems and progressives seem like the insane ones
Prestigious-Car-4877 on
How about the senate has the vote for the bait before the democrats approve anything.
realancepts4real on
suspicious number of sadsacks up in here today
citizenjones on
Republicans have depended on Democratic capitulation as a part of their strategy. It must be denied.
It’s their own fault that they’re stuck to the third rail of obstructionism. They can drop the ‘my way or the highway’ mindset and find compromise or they can take full responsibility and pass their own budget.
CellistHour4606 on
They had better not cave. I’m not working for free just so they can roll over on everyone.
ClashOfPenguin on
If they fold on this they may as well go on TV and take the blame for the entire shutdown. MAGA will absolutely spin this against the democrats as proof that they were responsible for the shutdown when they are suddenly able to reopen the government again.
He_Who_Walks_Behind_ on
If this shutdown ends without the ACA subsidies being extended, Schumer needs to be primaried in his next election. He also needs to be stripped of his leadership position.
Craneteam on
Centrists pulling defeat from the jaws of victory would be pretty on brand for this tired old guard that needs to be voted out
sircastor on
I have called my 2 senators and House Rep every week to tell them that even though I don’t like that the government is shut down, I do support their efforts to require funding healthcare subsidies.
I don’t need those subsidies, but my fellow citizens do. So I call.
Pagan_ink on
“Outraged Liberal”
Proceeds to use picture of Leftist.
gm92845 on
A lot of left leaning working class folk I talk to would rather go hungry in the short term than give Trump anymore power.
Visual-Pop3495 on
Those ‘Centrist’ traitors deserve to live with their capitulation to fascism for the rest of their lives if they actually cave. I hope their time in politics comes to an embarrassing and humiliating primary, and that their children spit in their faces for their weak, pathetic, and lack luster care for the republic they swore to protect.
Chratthew47150 on
Democrats are going to show us once again how weak they are
d0nutpls on
They better not fucking cave
otter-poppers on
As a registered democrat voter, I will never again vote for an establishment/corporate democrat candidate. From here on out, 100% progressive candidates only for me!
TheRoadkillRapunzel on
They will absolutely screw us over if they cave now! There are already too many disaffected voters who are angry that Dems aren’t fighting for them.
Biscuits4u2 on
All the polling has shown a majority of Americans blame Republicans for the shutdown. Why would they cave when they have the upper hand?
JMDeutsch on
Yeah and Orange Shithead will says “Pocket Recision” and do whatever he wants.
Make the GOP compromise.
Tonight’s election results only reinforce that Trump and his ilk are losing.
findingmike on
I think today’s elections say that Democrats are doing the right thing. It’s a bad idea to capitulate.
RoyalRobinBanks on
As someone who is disabled and on SNAP I agree, hold the line.
ColdStainlessNail on
Tonight’s election results are proof that the Democrats have the support of the people. They cannot cave at this point.
xxBeepBopBoopxx on
Democrats have made the mistake of extending an olive branch, and offering professional courtesies too many times. You can’t negotiate with bullies. They see it as weakness and will call you a sucker right after shaking hands.
dkran on
There’s no point to cave now unless demands are met
VoiceOfTheSoil40 on
Republicans will not keep their word. We will not have another chance to bend them over the barrel like this and get something concrete to actually help people.
GOP are liars. They lied last time. Democrats love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
DianedePoiters on
But democrats under Schumer probably will cave, which is why we need to primary schumer
Wild_Read9062 on
Jfc.
This is the second time this year Democrats have had an inch of leverage against these monsters. The first time was given away by Schumer and the usual wet towels because they feared what Republicans might do in a shutdown.
What they do is get completely sick inside and called out for their insane policies by everyone. What they get is a chance to see their future plans for the nation, where the rich throw a Gatsby party celebrating millions of people starving.
They do not honor deals. This can’t just be about ACA. This has to go further. At the least, this has to get them to start genuinely working with the left, and we ALL know THATS not going to happen. If anything, they will throw the Democratic senators and house reps in prison after this passes. I put nothing past them.
turb0_encapsulator on
why would a party that just won off-year elections by the largest margin in decades want to cave?
RttnAttorney on
Well, everyone should be outraged at what the republicans are trying to pass. Not just “those damn *outraged* *liberals*!”
gioraffe32 on
As a federal employee, “luckily” one who’s furloughed without pay rather than working without pay, Democrats better fucking stick to their guns.
Yes, it sucks not being paid for a month. Yes, I’m having to tighten the belt to make sure I can continue to stay afloat for as long as possible. Yes, I realize that I’m in a privileged position to be able to be without income for a month and potentially longer. I know there are a lot of other federal employees and their families who will soon be struggling or are already struggling due to loss of income.
But if Dems cave, then what was the point of all this? It can’t be just for show. Not after tonight’s election results across the country. So, Democrats, stick it out. People are already blaming Republicans for this shutdown. Make them squirm even more. Extract those policy wins, like ACA subsidies and whatever else from Republicans. Republicans need to own this.
Calcutec_1 on
Dems are not caving after yesterday’s election results. There is an obvious momentum for them
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“There is still no official agreement within a group of Senate centrists that have been privately meeting to discuss a shutdown exit ramp. But multiple sources involved in discussions told CNN that a deal could be reached as soon as this week to pass a temporary stopgap bill to reopen the government alongside several full-year spending bills — with a promise of a future vote to extend billions in enhanced Obamacare subsidies.”
Schumer willing to let his caucus cave with zero concessions from Republicans. In fact, he will gleefully give up any and all possible leverage for a “future vote” on healthcare.
They don’t give a SHIT about your premiums. Schumer is content with a performative end to the shutdown.
Contact your legislators. Contact Schumer to let him know what you think about his total lack of discipline over his caucus.
For anyone that’s been paying attention, the democratic “leaders” aren’t democrats. They’re corporate and Zionist performative shills working with republicans in service of their masters. This shouldn’t be news but of xourse it is and makes reasonable dems and progressives seem like the insane ones
How about the senate has the vote for the bait before the democrats approve anything.
suspicious number of sadsacks up in here today
Republicans have depended on Democratic capitulation as a part of their strategy. It must be denied.
It’s their own fault that they’re stuck to the third rail of obstructionism. They can drop the ‘my way or the highway’ mindset and find compromise or they can take full responsibility and pass their own budget.
They had better not cave. I’m not working for free just so they can roll over on everyone.
If they fold on this they may as well go on TV and take the blame for the entire shutdown. MAGA will absolutely spin this against the democrats as proof that they were responsible for the shutdown when they are suddenly able to reopen the government again.
If this shutdown ends without the ACA subsidies being extended, Schumer needs to be primaried in his next election. He also needs to be stripped of his leadership position.
Centrists pulling defeat from the jaws of victory would be pretty on brand for this tired old guard that needs to be voted out
I have called my 2 senators and House Rep every week to tell them that even though I don’t like that the government is shut down, I do support their efforts to require funding healthcare subsidies.
I don’t need those subsidies, but my fellow citizens do. So I call.
“Outraged Liberal”
Proceeds to use picture of Leftist.
A lot of left leaning working class folk I talk to would rather go hungry in the short term than give Trump anymore power.
Those ‘Centrist’ traitors deserve to live with their capitulation to fascism for the rest of their lives if they actually cave. I hope their time in politics comes to an embarrassing and humiliating primary, and that their children spit in their faces for their weak, pathetic, and lack luster care for the republic they swore to protect.
Democrats are going to show us once again how weak they are
They better not fucking cave
As a registered democrat voter, I will never again vote for an establishment/corporate democrat candidate. From here on out, 100% progressive candidates only for me!
They will absolutely screw us over if they cave now! There are already too many disaffected voters who are angry that Dems aren’t fighting for them.
All the polling has shown a majority of Americans blame Republicans for the shutdown. Why would they cave when they have the upper hand?
Yeah and Orange Shithead will says “Pocket Recision” and do whatever he wants.
Make the GOP compromise.
Tonight’s election results only reinforce that Trump and his ilk are losing.
I think today’s elections say that Democrats are doing the right thing. It’s a bad idea to capitulate.
As someone who is disabled and on SNAP I agree, hold the line.
Tonight’s election results are proof that the Democrats have the support of the people. They cannot cave at this point.
Democrats have made the mistake of extending an olive branch, and offering professional courtesies too many times. You can’t negotiate with bullies. They see it as weakness and will call you a sucker right after shaking hands.
There’s no point to cave now unless demands are met
Republicans will not keep their word. We will not have another chance to bend them over the barrel like this and get something concrete to actually help people.
GOP are liars. They lied last time. Democrats love snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
But democrats under Schumer probably will cave, which is why we need to primary schumer
Jfc.
This is the second time this year Democrats have had an inch of leverage against these monsters. The first time was given away by Schumer and the usual wet towels because they feared what Republicans might do in a shutdown.
What they do is get completely sick inside and called out for their insane policies by everyone. What they get is a chance to see their future plans for the nation, where the rich throw a Gatsby party celebrating millions of people starving.
They do not honor deals. This can’t just be about ACA. This has to go further. At the least, this has to get them to start genuinely working with the left, and we ALL know THATS not going to happen. If anything, they will throw the Democratic senators and house reps in prison after this passes. I put nothing past them.
why would a party that just won off-year elections by the largest margin in decades want to cave?
Well, everyone should be outraged at what the republicans are trying to pass. Not just “those damn *outraged* *liberals*!”
As a federal employee, “luckily” one who’s furloughed without pay rather than working without pay, Democrats better fucking stick to their guns.
Yes, it sucks not being paid for a month. Yes, I’m having to tighten the belt to make sure I can continue to stay afloat for as long as possible. Yes, I realize that I’m in a privileged position to be able to be without income for a month and potentially longer. I know there are a lot of other federal employees and their families who will soon be struggling or are already struggling due to loss of income.
But if Dems cave, then what was the point of all this? It can’t be just for show. Not after tonight’s election results across the country. So, Democrats, stick it out. People are already blaming Republicans for this shutdown. Make them squirm even more. Extract those policy wins, like ACA subsidies and whatever else from Republicans. Republicans need to own this.
Dems are not caving after yesterday’s election results. There is an obvious momentum for them