Sanders is a national hero…tireless for the middle ✊🏻
Murky_Chocolate_7916 on
They are genuinely not radical at all. They are pretty common sense ideas that would help make many peoples lives better. Somehow so many people are offended by them lol.
ImLikeReallySmart on
If you disassociate his ideas from candidate and/or party, most people will agree with them. Culture and ideological war bullshit has been way too effective for too long.
OkayButFoRealz on
Is healthcare for all like many other countries have radical?
Childcare?
Housing?
Equality?
How about obscene concentrated wealth.
January 6th.
Constant fear mongering and boogeyman preaching with culture war nonsense.
2 of the longest government shutdowns.
Ignoring court orders.
Enriching themselves at the expense of Americans and the economy.
Firing any opposing voice.
Not swearing in an elected official (Grijalva).
Illegally tearing up the Whitehouse.
Holding the government hostage to protect pedos and hiding the Epstein files.
I could go on and on. The ideas being promoted by progressives are not radical. They are things many other developed countries already do.
The only radical side spewing nonsense is the GOP and their lackies. It’s ALL culture war BS with no actual policy.
smithbob123312 on
I wish other progressives would move on from Sanders like they tell everyone else to do with other old Dems. His time is past just like Pelosi and Schumer. There are plenty of other progressive politicians that aren’t in their mid-80s that people can look to for leadership
e76 on
Socializing necessary services is something other democracies tolerate just fine and seem to even enjoy.
thieh on
The media has to stop portraying normal idea as radical.
turquoise_amethyst on
Bernie’s ideas aren’t radical either.
In other places there wouldn’t even be a right/left argument over universal healthcare or free college, they just do it because it makes their countries stronger.
IcehandGino on
Mamdani would be mainstream left in many European countries, and these are doing pretty well when it comes to quality of life.
People don’t understand that communism means going towards collective property of means of production by the mean of a dictatorship of proletariat phase. What Mamdani advocates for is actually social democracy like many countries that have much more respect for individual liberties than US in current day.
RiseDelicious3556 on
I wish Sanders had won the 2016 election. This would be a far different country.
Radically-Peaceful on
The ‘radical left policies’ is where the center used to be before both parties were totally corrupted with unlimited ‘donations’.
Melodic_Owl_5873 on
“Radical” left here is like centrist in many other places.
Ohuigin on
If you think that being able to afford to live, eat, and receive child care in your own country is radical…yikes…
This is a *damning* commentary on just how far this country has slid to the right, and the completely perverted landscape of our politics right now.
CelticSith on
They’re only “radical” to those who get enjoyment from people suffering
BulldogMoose on
They’ve been part of public discourse at a national – even presidential – level for over 100 years!
International_Tea_52 on
The radical ones are the reactionary Republicans. There is nothing conservative about them. Quit letting them define the terms.
Agressive-toothbrush on
I live in the Province of Quebec in Canada, we are just 9 million people.
What we have:
* **Universal, single-payer healthcare** (no bills ever).
* **Subsidized daycare** for $6.62 per child per day ($9.35 CAD)
* **Subsidized College / university tuition**… A medical student pays $6,625 annual, most students pay a lot less ($2,000 to $4000 a year).
* **Pharmacare** where the government shoulders 70% of the bill and our maximum monthly payout is $102.64 CAD ($72.70 USD) )a month, no matter which or how much prescription drugs we need.
* **2 weeks mandatory paid vacation** a year, most workers get 4 weeks paid and some get 8 weeks paid.
* **1 year PAID maternity leave** that the mother and father can split among themselves. Mother usually takes 8 months, the father takes 4 months.
* **No fault car insurances**, nobody gets sued unless they were committing a crime while driving (drunk driving, fleeing police, hit-and-run…)
And a bunch of other things I am forgetting about right now.
**Are we socialists?**
Well we are capitalists in a market economy where the market pretty much decides the prices of everything.
We live pretty much like you Americans, drive the same cars, use the same electronics, work very similar jobs and getting the same kind of education.
We shop at Walmart, McDonald’s, Subway, Starbucks, Taco Bell, Home Depot, Costco, Domino’s pizza…
We work for private corporations, have bosses, deadlines, cubicles, morning and evening rush hour traffic…
We watch South Park, SNL, the Late Show and have watched movies like the Matrix, Die hard, The Avengers and all of the Marvel and DC comics inspired movie franchises…
**We are like you, we just decided to tax our billionaires a bit more to get all the free stuff.**
JournalistRecent1230 on
Of course they aren’t radical.
Free public transit, tenant protections, and a minimum wage that keeps up with living costs and inflation….that is not radical.
What’s radical is 3.4 Trillion in tax cuts to the rich in the OBBB, kicking 10 million people off healthcare, violating court orders, violating the constitution, murdering people in international waters against international and domestic law, and using the military on your own citizens. *THIS IS Radical.*
Heavykiller on
Dude just wants people to live a good life and have the necessities without being thrown into poverty. He’s extremely charismatic and well-spoken too.
The Right feels extremely threatened by him so are trying to say he’s radical cause you know who else is similar to him? Obama.
da2Pakaveli on
Pretty normal ideas from centre-left parties in Europe
heck even some centre-right parties, e.g. Finland’s Housing First policy was passed under a centre-right government?
Goddamn Thatcher didn’t want to get rid of the UK’s nationalized healthcare system
NonesuchAndSuch77 on
Aren’t most of our Democratic Socialist candidates considered moderate centrists in Europe based on their platforms and policy? I hate that we have to even discuss ‘public transport should be free and easily accessible’ and ‘rent shouldn’t eat half your income’ as being outside of the norm instead of *being* the norm like in so many other places. This stuff shouldn’t be radical at all.
ObviousPin9970 on
When will the taxes we pay for all this “free” stuff make us, those who work, become indentured servants? You can tell when Politicians aren’t lying when their lips aren’t moving. I don’t like Trump. Yet both parties have put on a path of insolvency. Let see how fast Mamdani backpedals on his promises and/or New York needs a bailout.
futanari_kaisa on
America is captured by billionaires and corporations’ interests and it sadly will never break free. The country would sooner nuke itself than see an end to capitalism.
AllUsernamesInUse_ on
Anyone with a brain understands this, the problem is that conservative media, politicians, and to a degree corporate media have framed our national dialogue to be that so you can be as bad shit conservative crazy as you want and that’s perfectly fine no matter how far hard right you are, but if you are even slightly center of left, it’s like some kind of dirty thing to be afraid of. Fucking hypocrites.
Truth. Its great to see the maga cult so fearful and worried. Keep the pressure on them!
dudenurse13 on
Notably r/democrats will not allow any discussion of zohran or Bernie. The party needs to move forward
rysker6 on
MAGA and their donors are horrified at the prospect of Medicare for all most.
People being healthy terrifies them
Suspicious_Watch_449 on
Common Bernie/Mamdani W
dostoyevsky23 on
“Shaq is not tall, Yao Ming says.” /s
Canada_girl on
Enough old men, time for new blood sanders.
imjustsurfin on
***”Zohran Mamdani’s Ideas Are ‘Not Radical,’ Sen. Sanders Says”***
And he’s 100% right!!!!
Many of he things that ZM campaigned on, are the things **EVERY WESTERN\SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD – EXCEPT AMERICA** – has had\been doing since forever!!!
Is that what American “*Exceptionalism*” means? – Everyone ***EXCEPT*** America???
Van-garde on
*Such new modes can be indicated only in negative terms because they would amount to the negation of the prevailing modes. Thus economic freedom would mean freedom from the economy-from being controlled by economic forces and relationships; freedom from the daily struggle for existence, from earning a living. Political freedom would mean liberation of the individuals from politics over which they have no effective control. Similarly, intellectual freedom would mean the restoration of individual thought now absorbed by mass communication and indoctrination, abolition of “public opinion” together with its makers.* **The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.** *The most effective and enduring form of warfare against liberation is the implanting of material and intellectual needs that perpetuate obsolete forms of the struggle for existence.*
They are only radical to purse clutching billionaires that fear losing a percentage point of their massive wealth.
crimeo on
“Radical” no, but “Lacking any source of funding and thus not likely to happen” yes.
He is just assuming 60% of the state will agree to higher taxes for literally nothing in return, to subsidize 40% of the state for no reason for themselves. And expects to get 51% of the vote for this, for… reasons? Makes no sense.
b_dills on
That headline Bahahaha.
“The Cowboys are a great team, says Jerry Jones”
dgollas on
Feed the hungry? Heal the sick? Help the needy? Radical extremists!
IndigoMushies on
These days it’s considered radical to be like “hey, maybe don’t be an asshole”
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Sanders is a national hero…tireless for the middle ✊🏻
They are genuinely not radical at all. They are pretty common sense ideas that would help make many peoples lives better. Somehow so many people are offended by them lol.
If you disassociate his ideas from candidate and/or party, most people will agree with them. Culture and ideological war bullshit has been way too effective for too long.
Is healthcare for all like many other countries have radical?
Childcare?
Housing?
Equality?
How about obscene concentrated wealth.
January 6th.
Constant fear mongering and boogeyman preaching with culture war nonsense.
2 of the longest government shutdowns.
Ignoring court orders.
Enriching themselves at the expense of Americans and the economy.
Firing any opposing voice.
Not swearing in an elected official (Grijalva).
Illegally tearing up the Whitehouse.
Holding the government hostage to protect pedos and hiding the Epstein files.
I could go on and on. The ideas being promoted by progressives are not radical. They are things many other developed countries already do.
The only radical side spewing nonsense is the GOP and their lackies. It’s ALL culture war BS with no actual policy.
I wish other progressives would move on from Sanders like they tell everyone else to do with other old Dems. His time is past just like Pelosi and Schumer. There are plenty of other progressive politicians that aren’t in their mid-80s that people can look to for leadership
Socializing necessary services is something other democracies tolerate just fine and seem to even enjoy.
The media has to stop portraying normal idea as radical.
Bernie’s ideas aren’t radical either.
In other places there wouldn’t even be a right/left argument over universal healthcare or free college, they just do it because it makes their countries stronger.
Mamdani would be mainstream left in many European countries, and these are doing pretty well when it comes to quality of life.
People don’t understand that communism means going towards collective property of means of production by the mean of a dictatorship of proletariat phase. What Mamdani advocates for is actually social democracy like many countries that have much more respect for individual liberties than US in current day.
I wish Sanders had won the 2016 election. This would be a far different country.
The ‘radical left policies’ is where the center used to be before both parties were totally corrupted with unlimited ‘donations’.
“Radical” left here is like centrist in many other places.
If you think that being able to afford to live, eat, and receive child care in your own country is radical…yikes…
This is a *damning* commentary on just how far this country has slid to the right, and the completely perverted landscape of our politics right now.
They’re only “radical” to those who get enjoyment from people suffering
They’ve been part of public discourse at a national – even presidential – level for over 100 years!
The radical ones are the reactionary Republicans. There is nothing conservative about them. Quit letting them define the terms.
I live in the Province of Quebec in Canada, we are just 9 million people.
What we have:
* **Universal, single-payer healthcare** (no bills ever).
* **Subsidized daycare** for $6.62 per child per day ($9.35 CAD)
* **Subsidized College / university tuition**… A medical student pays $6,625 annual, most students pay a lot less ($2,000 to $4000 a year).
* **Pharmacare** where the government shoulders 70% of the bill and our maximum monthly payout is $102.64 CAD ($72.70 USD) )a month, no matter which or how much prescription drugs we need.
* **2 weeks mandatory paid vacation** a year, most workers get 4 weeks paid and some get 8 weeks paid.
* **1 year PAID maternity leave** that the mother and father can split among themselves. Mother usually takes 8 months, the father takes 4 months.
* **No fault car insurances**, nobody gets sued unless they were committing a crime while driving (drunk driving, fleeing police, hit-and-run…)
And a bunch of other things I am forgetting about right now.
**Are we socialists?**
Well we are capitalists in a market economy where the market pretty much decides the prices of everything.
We live pretty much like you Americans, drive the same cars, use the same electronics, work very similar jobs and getting the same kind of education.
We shop at Walmart, McDonald’s, Subway, Starbucks, Taco Bell, Home Depot, Costco, Domino’s pizza…
We work for private corporations, have bosses, deadlines, cubicles, morning and evening rush hour traffic…
We watch South Park, SNL, the Late Show and have watched movies like the Matrix, Die hard, The Avengers and all of the Marvel and DC comics inspired movie franchises…
**We are like you, we just decided to tax our billionaires a bit more to get all the free stuff.**
Of course they aren’t radical.
Free public transit, tenant protections, and a minimum wage that keeps up with living costs and inflation….that is not radical.
What’s radical is 3.4 Trillion in tax cuts to the rich in the OBBB, kicking 10 million people off healthcare, violating court orders, violating the constitution, murdering people in international waters against international and domestic law, and using the military on your own citizens. *THIS IS Radical.*
Dude just wants people to live a good life and have the necessities without being thrown into poverty. He’s extremely charismatic and well-spoken too.
The Right feels extremely threatened by him so are trying to say he’s radical cause you know who else is similar to him? Obama.
Pretty normal ideas from centre-left parties in Europe
heck even some centre-right parties, e.g. Finland’s Housing First policy was passed under a centre-right government?
Goddamn Thatcher didn’t want to get rid of the UK’s nationalized healthcare system
Aren’t most of our Democratic Socialist candidates considered moderate centrists in Europe based on their platforms and policy? I hate that we have to even discuss ‘public transport should be free and easily accessible’ and ‘rent shouldn’t eat half your income’ as being outside of the norm instead of *being* the norm like in so many other places. This stuff shouldn’t be radical at all.
When will the taxes we pay for all this “free” stuff make us, those who work, become indentured servants? You can tell when Politicians aren’t lying when their lips aren’t moving. I don’t like Trump. Yet both parties have put on a path of insolvency. Let see how fast Mamdani backpedals on his promises and/or New York needs a bailout.
America is captured by billionaires and corporations’ interests and it sadly will never break free. The country would sooner nuke itself than see an end to capitalism.
Anyone with a brain understands this, the problem is that conservative media, politicians, and to a degree corporate media have framed our national dialogue to be that so you can be as bad shit conservative crazy as you want and that’s perfectly fine no matter how far hard right you are, but if you are even slightly center of left, it’s like some kind of dirty thing to be afraid of. Fucking hypocrites.
Radical only to the 1% percent elite capitalists.
Some of Mamdani’s policies [are very similar to what Bloomberg ran on almost 20 years ago](https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/mamdanis-platform-surprisingly-similar-bloombergs-experts/story?id=124005077). The issue isn’t that Mamdani is too radically far to the left. The issue is that national discourse has swung radically to the right.
Truth. Its great to see the maga cult so fearful and worried. Keep the pressure on them!
Notably r/democrats will not allow any discussion of zohran or Bernie. The party needs to move forward
MAGA and their donors are horrified at the prospect of Medicare for all most.
People being healthy terrifies them
Common Bernie/Mamdani W
“Shaq is not tall, Yao Ming says.” /s
Enough old men, time for new blood sanders.
***”Zohran Mamdani’s Ideas Are ‘Not Radical,’ Sen. Sanders Says”***
And he’s 100% right!!!!
Many of he things that ZM campaigned on, are the things **EVERY WESTERN\SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD – EXCEPT AMERICA** – has had\been doing since forever!!!
Is that what American “*Exceptionalism*” means? – Everyone ***EXCEPT*** America???
*Such new modes can be indicated only in negative terms because they would amount to the negation of the prevailing modes. Thus economic freedom would mean freedom from the economy-from being controlled by economic forces and relationships; freedom from the daily struggle for existence, from earning a living. Political freedom would mean liberation of the individuals from politics over which they have no effective control. Similarly, intellectual freedom would mean the restoration of individual thought now absorbed by mass communication and indoctrination, abolition of “public opinion” together with its makers.* **The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.** *The most effective and enduring form of warfare against liberation is the implanting of material and intellectual needs that perpetuate obsolete forms of the struggle for existence.*
https://www.marcuse.org/herbert/pubs/64onedim/odm1.html
They are only radical to purse clutching billionaires that fear losing a percentage point of their massive wealth.
“Radical” no, but “Lacking any source of funding and thus not likely to happen” yes.
He is just assuming 60% of the state will agree to higher taxes for literally nothing in return, to subsidize 40% of the state for no reason for themselves. And expects to get 51% of the vote for this, for… reasons? Makes no sense.
That headline Bahahaha.
“The Cowboys are a great team, says Jerry Jones”
Feed the hungry? Heal the sick? Help the needy? Radical extremists!
These days it’s considered radical to be like “hey, maybe don’t be an asshole”