Major facts 😂. You cave to Trump and GOP, pack yo shit
dbag3o1 on
Keep it shut down until the midterms. Thats how we can sweep them.
Plus why restart the fascist machine? Keep it shutdown!
DOINKSnAMISH22 on
Honestly I’m ready to send any incumbent that gets primaried packing if I didn’t see them actively fighting this regime. Secondly even if they did if they are over 62 the general retirement age they gone it’s time for young blood in the system. I’d make an exception for Bernie but I don’t get to vote for him.
NeededToChooseAName on
Wrong.
If they cave, ALL OF US lose.
Kgaset on
It’s pretty lose-lose right now. Real people are suffering real consequences. But if you capitulate you lose worse because it was basically for nothing.
Shadow293 on
Dems are going to cave, they cant’t help it, it’s in their DNA. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I pray I’m wrong this time.
MiracleMan1989 on
Make them kill the filibuster and own the ACA cuts entirely.
rgvtim on
Let him kill the fillibuster, its going to screw the GOP more than the Dems, that thing provides cover for a moderate republican to toe the party line without the fear of bad legislation actually being passed.
Gobape on
Purge your pedophile president.
Designer-Contract852 on
They cave , all the American people lose both red and blue alike.
Adept-Target5407 on
I mean it’s true.
ProfessionalCraft983 on
100% Caving would be the absolute *stupidest* thing they could do right now. They have all momentum, all the cards, everything in their advantage. If they cave now, everyone will be pissed at them because this will all have been for nothing. They absolutely *must* hold out for at least temporary funding on ACA credits until the GOP have a replacement plan so that people’s healthcare doesn’t skyrocket overnight. If not, it’s over.
Interesting-Risk6446 on
Hold the fucking line Democrats.
JimboAltAlt on
Whatever happens, if the government ever reopens, it’s going to be spun as a cave by the Dems and a “art of the deal” triumph by Trump. We’ve preemptively lost the messaging battle so we need to make sure we get something real.
Doravillain on
This is correct. Right now, Americans agree with Dems that it is good to fight for healthcare costs, and Americans blame Republicans for allowing costs to go up. If Dems re-open the government, then Americans will view them as having inflicted pain for no reason and at no benefit to anyone. And if Dems then shut down the government again, then Americans won’t see it as a moral action but petulance.
Republicans are paying a political cost for the shutdown already. Democrats will pay a political cost if they re-open with nothing to show for it. Republicans know that. So they think its in their calculated best interest to force Democrats to re-open for nothing, so they incur political harm. The only way to convince Republicans to negotiate is to convince Republicans that the political harm they will incur if they fail to negotiate is greater than the political harm Democrats will incur if they re-open for nothing.
And you see that with Trump after the elections this week.
VictorChristian on
As much as i come down on leftists… i 100% can get behind this. And if THIS is what gets the left really energized, so be it.
I’ll take Antifa over maga… I hope it sticks this time.
ech-o on
I’m an old school Democrat centrist, and I will leave the fucking party if the Dems capitulate on this shutdown.
Thank you leftists for holding their feet to the fire.
TASTEDLIKEFASCISM on
Understand what the assignment is…
xeloth9 on
ACA Premiums going up 2 to 5x what they were last year needs shouted from the mountaintops.
With people dropping ACA coverage now United, Kaiser, BCBS and the other bloodsucking insurance middlemen will pass the loss onto private plans provided by your employer. People are going to be in for a rough wake up call when next years enrollments start.
ispq on
The Republicans can end this government shutdown anytime they want.
Oceanbreeze871 on
Dems have all the leverage.
WoodpeckerAbject8369 on
I’m thinking Trump will take this opportunity to cancel Congress and the 2026 elections. Dems might be much better off “caving in” and letting Repulsicans show their true colors.
JPenniman on
Keep it shutdown. It’s a win-win situation for democrats right now. Either republicans compromise or they end the filibuster to deprive Americans of healthcare which will help us pass legislation when we get control.
tcote2001 on
They want to lose. That’s why they’ll capitulate. Their billionaire donors can’t allow a progressive waive.
LowHistorian9654 on
Newb at politics here, but can someone ELI5 what a filibuster is and why it sounds so stupid? That last part is optional.
sus_round_letter on
Do not cave. The healthcare of their constituents depends on it.
Maximum_Tea_5934 on
Friendly reminder, if you have Democratic senators, write to them and tell them to hold firm.
CharlesB43 on
IF the dems cave, that has to be it. I don’t want to see a single supporter of any member that caves.
All that suffering needs a meaning and the republicans are on the ropes, KEEP THE DAMN PRESSURE UP.
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Major facts 😂. You cave to Trump and GOP, pack yo shit
Keep it shut down until the midterms. Thats how we can sweep them.
Plus why restart the fascist machine? Keep it shutdown!
Honestly I’m ready to send any incumbent that gets primaried packing if I didn’t see them actively fighting this regime. Secondly even if they did if they are over 62 the general retirement age they gone it’s time for young blood in the system. I’d make an exception for Bernie but I don’t get to vote for him.
Wrong.
If they cave, ALL OF US lose.
It’s pretty lose-lose right now. Real people are suffering real consequences. But if you capitulate you lose worse because it was basically for nothing.
Dems are going to cave, they cant’t help it, it’s in their DNA. Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
I pray I’m wrong this time.
Make them kill the filibuster and own the ACA cuts entirely.
Let him kill the fillibuster, its going to screw the GOP more than the Dems, that thing provides cover for a moderate republican to toe the party line without the fear of bad legislation actually being passed.
Purge your pedophile president.
They cave , all the American people lose both red and blue alike.
I mean it’s true.
100% Caving would be the absolute *stupidest* thing they could do right now. They have all momentum, all the cards, everything in their advantage. If they cave now, everyone will be pissed at them because this will all have been for nothing. They absolutely *must* hold out for at least temporary funding on ACA credits until the GOP have a replacement plan so that people’s healthcare doesn’t skyrocket overnight. If not, it’s over.
Hold the fucking line Democrats.
Whatever happens, if the government ever reopens, it’s going to be spun as a cave by the Dems and a “art of the deal” triumph by Trump. We’ve preemptively lost the messaging battle so we need to make sure we get something real.
This is correct. Right now, Americans agree with Dems that it is good to fight for healthcare costs, and Americans blame Republicans for allowing costs to go up. If Dems re-open the government, then Americans will view them as having inflicted pain for no reason and at no benefit to anyone. And if Dems then shut down the government again, then Americans won’t see it as a moral action but petulance.
Republicans are paying a political cost for the shutdown already. Democrats will pay a political cost if they re-open with nothing to show for it. Republicans know that. So they think its in their calculated best interest to force Democrats to re-open for nothing, so they incur political harm. The only way to convince Republicans to negotiate is to convince Republicans that the political harm they will incur if they fail to negotiate is greater than the political harm Democrats will incur if they re-open for nothing.
And you see that with Trump after the elections this week.
As much as i come down on leftists… i 100% can get behind this. And if THIS is what gets the left really energized, so be it.
I’ll take Antifa over maga… I hope it sticks this time.
I’m an old school Democrat centrist, and I will leave the fucking party if the Dems capitulate on this shutdown.
Thank you leftists for holding their feet to the fire.
Understand what the assignment is…
ACA Premiums going up 2 to 5x what they were last year needs shouted from the mountaintops.
With people dropping ACA coverage now United, Kaiser, BCBS and the other bloodsucking insurance middlemen will pass the loss onto private plans provided by your employer. People are going to be in for a rough wake up call when next years enrollments start.
The Republicans can end this government shutdown anytime they want.
Dems have all the leverage.
I’m thinking Trump will take this opportunity to cancel Congress and the 2026 elections. Dems might be much better off “caving in” and letting Repulsicans show their true colors.
Keep it shutdown. It’s a win-win situation for democrats right now. Either republicans compromise or they end the filibuster to deprive Americans of healthcare which will help us pass legislation when we get control.
They want to lose. That’s why they’ll capitulate. Their billionaire donors can’t allow a progressive waive.
Newb at politics here, but can someone ELI5 what a filibuster is and why it sounds so stupid? That last part is optional.
Do not cave. The healthcare of their constituents depends on it.
Friendly reminder, if you have Democratic senators, write to them and tell them to hold firm.
IF the dems cave, that has to be it. I don’t want to see a single supporter of any member that caves.
All that suffering needs a meaning and the republicans are on the ropes, KEEP THE DAMN PRESSURE UP.
Call your reps. tell them don’t cave.