The democrats tried nothing and are all out of ideas,
Again and like always, but that’s how planned opposition works.
Justaregard on
Absolutely a mistake. The whole Republican plan in a nutshell. Stop ACA subsidies, marketplace must raise prices to compensate, people can’t afford insurance through marketplace, marketplace has to raise rates more because less people bought insurance than they planned on, marketplace collapses because of this. Republicans then thought how inefficient government run programs and vote to scrap the ACA entirely. People are once again forced to stay in jobs for the healthcare.
Johnqpublic25 on
Of course it was, but since the democrats don’t listen to their constituents it’s to be expected, sadly.
Strength-Certain on
Wise/s
Designer_Buy_1650 on
Tell it face to face to the 8 turncoats and Schumer. Quit trying to get headlines. Get a backbone.
Wise-Reference-4818 on
Imagine a world where the house democrats release the emails they released this week a few days after the party sweeps the off year elections. Then, they spend some money blasting across social media that the Republicans were going to starve poor people and disrupt Thanksgiving travel while ruining Christmas for millions more because people are facing huge healthcare premium jumps next year. Oh, and the house can’t even negotiate because Mike Johnson wanted to coverup the Epstein files.
But no, we got a promise for a vote.
cjwidd on
r/noshitsherlock
Otherwise-Sun2486 on
The voters were cheering them on, they didn’t even have to do much just wait until the republicans caved in… Nah they caved after a historic mid term election. Trash… this is another example of being brought out by the rich
ununuii on
It was. They got the federal firings reversed & SNAP funded for one year, but I don’t think those two things as important as they are were worth trading away ACA subsidies. Healthcare is a necessity and that’s going to be the big killer for millions of people.
liebkartoffel on
But hey, at least they got nothing out of it.
Iowa_Dave on
I still wonder if it was a tactical retreat.
Let the GOP have their way, millions of people will be harmed/alarmed, and the Democrats can point to that and say “See? We told you so!”
From what I’m reading, some MAGAs are waking up and looking around the world they are living in as opposed to the one Trump promised.
The jury is still out on the 40% of eligible voters who didn’t bother to vote in 2024. I think SNL nailed [that group](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAG37Kw1-aw) pretty well.
Alwaystired254 on
No shit
Complex-Ferret-9406 on
You just have to fight now for better Healthcare and it would help if you’d fight for affordable housing too.
MrPantsyFlants on
It was meaningless. All the turmoil and literal hunger was for nothing. No concessions. Just a promise, from this group of republicans, to hold a vote in the future. People went hungry for a promise and that’s bad politics.
consumeshroomz on
Oh man if only anyone with half a braincell could have seen this coming!
Cigar-smkr on
No shit
bellrunner on
No shit, Sherlock
Cagnazzo82 on
It’s not just that they ended the shutdown… but the Democrats who ended the shutdown came out saying that it just made Trump more powerful. In reality Trump was freaking out daily.
It was not only a betrayal, but a giant slap in the face to their own party.
It makes you believe in the rumors that the Democrats (or at least a portion of the party) is in fact paid opposition just astroturfing.
When you think about it there’s always a faction that betrays or opposes even while Democratic presidents are in office (blue dog democrats under Obama, a couple senators under Biden). It’s not all of them, but it’s always just enough to disrupt the agenda… And you never see this on the Republican side.
The manner in which the Democrats ended the shutdown and then attacked the Democratic strategy, it was as if it was meant to throw ice on the fire building up after the sweep Dems had in the recent elections. And especially with Mamdani’s win. It was almost like a response.
Wine_Women_Song on
Oh we know
PotatoAppleFish on
Everyone knew this. Apparently aside from the 8 Democrats who voted to end it.
rkbasu on
Duh doi
davidjschloss on
Things I could have told you.
bopgame on
No shit boomer
Bakedfresh420 on
They didn’t fall onto a vote yes button. This was on purpose not accidental
AKoolPopTart on
Dude, I can’t pay for food if I don’t get paid….
Large_Ad_3095 on
Wild to watch this happen when Americans blamed the GOP more in every poll and support for subsidies polled well.
ChinookKing on
No fn shit.
Unco_Slam on
Why listen to your constituents for free when you can pay consultants to lie to you for a million dollars?
AstronomerDear7201 on
If he’s sincere about that, then call for a caucus vote to elect a new senate minority leader. As long as Schumer is leader, nothing that comes out of his mouth matters.
Naive_Background7848 on
I have little faith in the Democrats, but I’m hoping it was a calculated decision. Open the government with SNAP funded for another year knowing that Epstien files will be coming out and that there will be a vote on renewing ACA subsidies in December.
When the inevitable happens and the Republicans vote down the healthcare package and shenanigans happen with the Epstein files they get another chance to extract concessions from the Republicans in January when the next funding deadline arrives. Only this time at least it won’t be at Thanksgiving and Christmas and the Republicans will have to justify having votes against healthcare on the record.
It’s all I’ve got. Otherwise this was an incredibly dumb move given how well it was working and the pressure that was on the Republicans to actually do something that would help people.
OneRacoonShort on
Too late, now all the people on snap get benefits and the government employees and service members get paid. Totally wrong move when the exact deal was on the table a month ago, what made it better the second or 14th time? Politicians are so disconnected from reality.
MatthewUnplugged on
It was a mistake to shut it down in the first place. The GOP simply does not care if the government is shut down. There’s no leverage there.
soputmeonahighway on
Duh!! 🤦🏼♀️
Prize-Donkey4241 on
I think that opening was the best choice because the harm that would keep if they kept the government open just for another week would have been catastrophic. Also (i might be too optimistic here) i think that democrats and republicans can work to help the healthcare crisis together and if the republicans won’t work with the democrats on this the republicans will get killed in the midterms.
Nevuk on
Unless a Dem senator is willing to stand up to Schumer, I no longer believe them. At all. Any of them.
FoCo87 on
As a federal employee finally getting paid, it was not a mistake.
Murderface__ on
We are well aware
SnakeOiler on
duh. that is a feature of us Dems… we do not have the courage of our convictions. we too easily bend to the immediate needs of others. repubs have it down: screw the currently affected… it will work out eventually (good or bad)
of_no_real_opinion on
Hey guys, who wants to tell him no shit
daveashaw on
I don’t know how long it could have gone on–there was just no endgame.
The elections showed pretty decisively that Trump was being blamed, correctly, for the shutdown.
mr_evilweed on
If only someone could have foreseen this other than *checks notes* just about everyone
Miqo_Nekomancer on
Next they’ll be saying “that Hitler guy might not have been a nice fellow.”
Wolfman01a on
NO SHIT SHERLOCK.
Vote all 8 of the turncoat morons out when their time comes.
I wish we had more options.
8bitmorals on
Water makes you wet too
outsmartedagain on
Actually I think that now the GOP fully owns healthcare in America. It’s their chicken, and whatever happens will be solely on them.
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Yea no shit.
The democrats tried nothing and are all out of ideas,
Again and like always, but that’s how planned opposition works.
Absolutely a mistake. The whole Republican plan in a nutshell. Stop ACA subsidies, marketplace must raise prices to compensate, people can’t afford insurance through marketplace, marketplace has to raise rates more because less people bought insurance than they planned on, marketplace collapses because of this. Republicans then thought how inefficient government run programs and vote to scrap the ACA entirely. People are once again forced to stay in jobs for the healthcare.
Of course it was, but since the democrats don’t listen to their constituents it’s to be expected, sadly.
Wise/s
Tell it face to face to the 8 turncoats and Schumer. Quit trying to get headlines. Get a backbone.
Imagine a world where the house democrats release the emails they released this week a few days after the party sweeps the off year elections. Then, they spend some money blasting across social media that the Republicans were going to starve poor people and disrupt Thanksgiving travel while ruining Christmas for millions more because people are facing huge healthcare premium jumps next year. Oh, and the house can’t even negotiate because Mike Johnson wanted to coverup the Epstein files.
But no, we got a promise for a vote.
r/noshitsherlock
The voters were cheering them on, they didn’t even have to do much just wait until the republicans caved in… Nah they caved after a historic mid term election. Trash… this is another example of being brought out by the rich
It was. They got the federal firings reversed & SNAP funded for one year, but I don’t think those two things as important as they are were worth trading away ACA subsidies. Healthcare is a necessity and that’s going to be the big killer for millions of people.
But hey, at least they got nothing out of it.
I still wonder if it was a tactical retreat.
Let the GOP have their way, millions of people will be harmed/alarmed, and the Democrats can point to that and say “See? We told you so!”
From what I’m reading, some MAGAs are waking up and looking around the world they are living in as opposed to the one Trump promised.
The jury is still out on the 40% of eligible voters who didn’t bother to vote in 2024. I think SNL nailed [that group](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAG37Kw1-aw) pretty well.
No shit
You just have to fight now for better Healthcare and it would help if you’d fight for affordable housing too.
It was meaningless. All the turmoil and literal hunger was for nothing. No concessions. Just a promise, from this group of republicans, to hold a vote in the future. People went hungry for a promise and that’s bad politics.
Oh man if only anyone with half a braincell could have seen this coming!
No shit
No shit, Sherlock
It’s not just that they ended the shutdown… but the Democrats who ended the shutdown came out saying that it just made Trump more powerful. In reality Trump was freaking out daily.
It was not only a betrayal, but a giant slap in the face to their own party.
It makes you believe in the rumors that the Democrats (or at least a portion of the party) is in fact paid opposition just astroturfing.
When you think about it there’s always a faction that betrays or opposes even while Democratic presidents are in office (blue dog democrats under Obama, a couple senators under Biden). It’s not all of them, but it’s always just enough to disrupt the agenda… And you never see this on the Republican side.
The manner in which the Democrats ended the shutdown and then attacked the Democratic strategy, it was as if it was meant to throw ice on the fire building up after the sweep Dems had in the recent elections. And especially with Mamdani’s win. It was almost like a response.
Oh we know
Everyone knew this. Apparently aside from the 8 Democrats who voted to end it.
Duh doi
Things I could have told you.
No shit boomer
They didn’t fall onto a vote yes button. This was on purpose not accidental
Dude, I can’t pay for food if I don’t get paid….
Wild to watch this happen when Americans blamed the GOP more in every poll and support for subsidies polled well.
No fn shit.
Why listen to your constituents for free when you can pay consultants to lie to you for a million dollars?
If he’s sincere about that, then call for a caucus vote to elect a new senate minority leader. As long as Schumer is leader, nothing that comes out of his mouth matters.
I have little faith in the Democrats, but I’m hoping it was a calculated decision. Open the government with SNAP funded for another year knowing that Epstien files will be coming out and that there will be a vote on renewing ACA subsidies in December.
When the inevitable happens and the Republicans vote down the healthcare package and shenanigans happen with the Epstein files they get another chance to extract concessions from the Republicans in January when the next funding deadline arrives. Only this time at least it won’t be at Thanksgiving and Christmas and the Republicans will have to justify having votes against healthcare on the record.
It’s all I’ve got. Otherwise this was an incredibly dumb move given how well it was working and the pressure that was on the Republicans to actually do something that would help people.
Too late, now all the people on snap get benefits and the government employees and service members get paid. Totally wrong move when the exact deal was on the table a month ago, what made it better the second or 14th time? Politicians are so disconnected from reality.
It was a mistake to shut it down in the first place. The GOP simply does not care if the government is shut down. There’s no leverage there.
Duh!! 🤦🏼♀️
I think that opening was the best choice because the harm that would keep if they kept the government open just for another week would have been catastrophic. Also (i might be too optimistic here) i think that democrats and republicans can work to help the healthcare crisis together and if the republicans won’t work with the democrats on this the republicans will get killed in the midterms.
Unless a Dem senator is willing to stand up to Schumer, I no longer believe them. At all. Any of them.
As a federal employee finally getting paid, it was not a mistake.
We are well aware
duh. that is a feature of us Dems… we do not have the courage of our convictions. we too easily bend to the immediate needs of others. repubs have it down: screw the currently affected… it will work out eventually (good or bad)
Hey guys, who wants to tell him no shit
I don’t know how long it could have gone on–there was just no endgame.
The elections showed pretty decisively that Trump was being blamed, correctly, for the shutdown.
If only someone could have foreseen this other than *checks notes* just about everyone
Next they’ll be saying “that Hitler guy might not have been a nice fellow.”
NO SHIT SHERLOCK.
Vote all 8 of the turncoat morons out when their time comes.
I wish we had more options.
Water makes you wet too
Actually I think that now the GOP fully owns healthcare in America. It’s their chicken, and whatever happens will be solely on them.