> It has also been reported that **engineering,** a business master’s, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered “professional” either.
Spiffy.
Ok_Juice4449 on
What is this nonsense? Who would listen to his garbage? He is not a bright or moral man.
Tiny_Structure_7 on
They are leaders of the idiot society, which resents education, and hates educated people.
dysrptv on
I am an NP and it’s amazing how Trump supporting Nurses and NPs are just downplaying this. Politics over Profession, every time.
Romano16 on
Trump administration is illegitimate. A man who was sued for operating a fake university has no credibility whatsoever to decide whether someone’s degree is professional or not.
1K-Year-Egg on
I really, really expected to see librarians on that list, too. Huh.
jsinkwitz on
Nurses are teachers aren’t professionals? They are some of the most underpaid, hard working professionals out there.
WHSRWizard on
I can understand why Trump would have issues with accountants
A-Helpful-Flamingo on
Nothing about him or his admin is professional. They can shove this list up their collective a****
Ok-News-6189 on
Accountants aren’t classified as professional? Oh that’s the precursor to pushing AI to kill the profession
Most-Artichoke6184 on
Nursing degrees and teaching degrees. Two professions that are mandated reporters of child abuse.
Interesting.
J-the-Kidder on
This is how you keep a population uneducated and/or in crippling debt. This is the Republican MO, as awful as it is. But even more so when combined with forcing women to give birth versus having the option for proper reproductive care and medical costs as a whole. The system is being further rigged against ordinary citizens to the delight of the oligarchs.
plasticbag_spaceman on
If anyone else is like me and doesn’t really know what it means for a degree to be ‘professional’ or why it matters; they’re programs that typically focus less on research and more on hands-on practical training. But more importantly, student loans and how much you can borrow is different for these programs. Marking these degrees as no longer ‘professional’ likely makes it more difficult to secure funding, which will lead to fewer people getting these degrees.
Faux-Foe on
If my masters degree isn’t professional, I want a refund.
Dangerous-Week900 on
Quote by Kevin Kinser, prof of education policy studies at Pennsylvania State University:
>As a wider impact, on the positive side, it will prevent people from taking on unreasonable amount of debt for the salaries they can expect to receive in employment.
Can someone please explain to me how the inevitable result of people not going into these very necessary professions is a “positive”? How is this a better solution than addressing the exorbitant cost of education or, oh idk, doing something about our fucking criminally stagnant wages???
Ok-Good-9919 on
You’re telling me, I’m going to go and get a DOCTORATE in physical therapy, and will still not be considered to have a professional degree. Is the only option to emigrate?
Terrible_Toaster on
But don’t worry everyone… THEOLOGY is still a.professional degree. I cant wait until I get to drive over a bridge built by Jesus. He was a carpenter after all. Fuck those engineers though amirite?
Smooth_Buffalo_2578 on
Well since we are obviously attacking women dominated job fields I suppose its safe to assume we have Lil dick energy yet again 🙄
But since we are going to label things as NOT professional I have some very easy ones
1) president
2) secretary of defense
3) attorney general of the united states.
4) congress
5) senate
Since all of these positions allow you to still be at the job even after having a criminal record they should not be labeled as professional NOR should they be paid anything more than minimum wage. Plus as we can see with objective truth….they are full of fucking idiots.
College-Lumpy on
Has anyone clearly described what this really means in terms of impacts and second order effects?
I’ve heard that it will affect student loan borrowing. What else?
Why are they doing this besides the fact that they’re assholes?
samosa4me on
Alright so who the Trump admin is associated with a chiropractor 🙄
ConfusedGamer63 on
The part that gets me is that Theology students get a pass.
But Physicians Assistants and Nurse Practitioners.. who now do about a third of all Primary and Urgent Care.. are no longer allowed to take out student loans.
We already have an primary care crisis in America. This is only going to make it worse.
omnigear on
Wtf architects? Does that mducker know what it takes to be licensed ? We are in charge of code , life safety, construction coordination .
School is 5 years, then 3 years working under licensed architects. Then 1 year yo finish exams ans then you can be called an architect.
Dude must be jealous of someone
rebelintellectual on
As an engineer this is bullshit . One of the hardest degrees and he chooses to make clergy a profession. Give me a break this administration is higher than inflation rate.
Kendal_with_1_L on
The CPA is one of the hardest exams to pass yet accountants aren’t professionals…. K.
Sea_Refrigerator3709 on
There was quite a few layers to this, one of which I figure is their way of officially curating a list of professions that are allowed to represent themselves as ‘experts’ when it comes to advice and guidance.
“Compelling arguments, but I’ll defer to the professional theologian over the nurses on this one”
WriterWri on
Seems stupid to have hard work and education judged by a man that’s never done either.
aravarth on
What the balls.
I’m a former classroom teacher and uni professor. I currently work as the CFO of a small business. I don’t have an accounting degree, but I rely on certified financial accountants. And part time I’m studying construction engineering so that when I “retire” from my current job, I can work closely with architects and civil engineers to design homes and buildings, and then build them.
If your profession requires you *by statute* to have a postsecondary degree *and* licensure, and that the gateways to licensure are statutorily established and evaluated by a professional standards commission, *you’re a fucking professional*.
This includes teachers, accountants, architects, and engineers — all professions which this administration says aren’t “professional”.
Fk this guy.
The_real_bandito on
Accountants 😂
You know very well why he probably doesn’t classify them as professionals.
AccurateAssistance28 on
This is part of Project Esther, which is a subsection of Project 2025. It focuses on forcing women back into “traditional family roles.” I’m a professional architect, and it’s really insulting to say that what I’ve worked so hard for is not professional anymore. Piggy hasn’t worked this hard at anything in his fucking sad little life (maybe besides to destroy America from within, but he’s just the puppet).
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List of Degrees Not Classed as ‘Professional’ by Trump Admin:
* Nursing
* Physician assistants
* Physical therapists
* Audiologists
* Architects
* Accountants
* Educators
* Social workers
> It has also been reported that **engineering,** a business master’s, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered “professional” either.
Spiffy.
What is this nonsense? Who would listen to his garbage? He is not a bright or moral man.
They are leaders of the idiot society, which resents education, and hates educated people.
I am an NP and it’s amazing how Trump supporting Nurses and NPs are just downplaying this. Politics over Profession, every time.
Trump administration is illegitimate. A man who was sued for operating a fake university has no credibility whatsoever to decide whether someone’s degree is professional or not.
I really, really expected to see librarians on that list, too. Huh.
Nurses are teachers aren’t professionals? They are some of the most underpaid, hard working professionals out there.
I can understand why Trump would have issues with accountants
Nothing about him or his admin is professional. They can shove this list up their collective a****
Accountants aren’t classified as professional? Oh that’s the precursor to pushing AI to kill the profession
Nursing degrees and teaching degrees. Two professions that are mandated reporters of child abuse.
Interesting.
This is how you keep a population uneducated and/or in crippling debt. This is the Republican MO, as awful as it is. But even more so when combined with forcing women to give birth versus having the option for proper reproductive care and medical costs as a whole. The system is being further rigged against ordinary citizens to the delight of the oligarchs.
If anyone else is like me and doesn’t really know what it means for a degree to be ‘professional’ or why it matters; they’re programs that typically focus less on research and more on hands-on practical training. But more importantly, student loans and how much you can borrow is different for these programs. Marking these degrees as no longer ‘professional’ likely makes it more difficult to secure funding, which will lead to fewer people getting these degrees.
If my masters degree isn’t professional, I want a refund.
Quote by Kevin Kinser, prof of education policy studies at Pennsylvania State University:
>As a wider impact, on the positive side, it will prevent people from taking on unreasonable amount of debt for the salaries they can expect to receive in employment.
Can someone please explain to me how the inevitable result of people not going into these very necessary professions is a “positive”? How is this a better solution than addressing the exorbitant cost of education or, oh idk, doing something about our fucking criminally stagnant wages???
You’re telling me, I’m going to go and get a DOCTORATE in physical therapy, and will still not be considered to have a professional degree. Is the only option to emigrate?
But don’t worry everyone… THEOLOGY is still a.professional degree. I cant wait until I get to drive over a bridge built by Jesus. He was a carpenter after all. Fuck those engineers though amirite?
Well since we are obviously attacking women dominated job fields I suppose its safe to assume we have Lil dick energy yet again 🙄
But since we are going to label things as NOT professional I have some very easy ones
1) president
2) secretary of defense
3) attorney general of the united states.
4) congress
5) senate
Since all of these positions allow you to still be at the job even after having a criminal record they should not be labeled as professional NOR should they be paid anything more than minimum wage. Plus as we can see with objective truth….they are full of fucking idiots.
Has anyone clearly described what this really means in terms of impacts and second order effects?
I’ve heard that it will affect student loan borrowing. What else?
Why are they doing this besides the fact that they’re assholes?
Alright so who the Trump admin is associated with a chiropractor 🙄
The part that gets me is that Theology students get a pass.
But Physicians Assistants and Nurse Practitioners.. who now do about a third of all Primary and Urgent Care.. are no longer allowed to take out student loans.
We already have an primary care crisis in America. This is only going to make it worse.
Wtf architects? Does that mducker know what it takes to be licensed ? We are in charge of code , life safety, construction coordination .
School is 5 years, then 3 years working under licensed architects. Then 1 year yo finish exams ans then you can be called an architect.
Dude must be jealous of someone
As an engineer this is bullshit . One of the hardest degrees and he chooses to make clergy a profession. Give me a break this administration is higher than inflation rate.
The CPA is one of the hardest exams to pass yet accountants aren’t professionals…. K.
There was quite a few layers to this, one of which I figure is their way of officially curating a list of professions that are allowed to represent themselves as ‘experts’ when it comes to advice and guidance.
“Compelling arguments, but I’ll defer to the professional theologian over the nurses on this one”
Seems stupid to have hard work and education judged by a man that’s never done either.
What the balls.
I’m a former classroom teacher and uni professor. I currently work as the CFO of a small business. I don’t have an accounting degree, but I rely on certified financial accountants. And part time I’m studying construction engineering so that when I “retire” from my current job, I can work closely with architects and civil engineers to design homes and buildings, and then build them.
If your profession requires you *by statute* to have a postsecondary degree *and* licensure, and that the gateways to licensure are statutorily established and evaluated by a professional standards commission, *you’re a fucking professional*.
This includes teachers, accountants, architects, and engineers — all professions which this administration says aren’t “professional”.
Fk this guy.
Accountants 😂
You know very well why he probably doesn’t classify them as professionals.
This is part of Project Esther, which is a subsection of Project 2025. It focuses on forcing women back into “traditional family roles.” I’m a professional architect, and it’s really insulting to say that what I’ve worked so hard for is not professional anymore. Piggy hasn’t worked this hard at anything in his fucking sad little life (maybe besides to destroy America from within, but he’s just the puppet).