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  1. Appropriate-Soft-188 on

    If they’re all legal, then they have nothing to fear and need to stop hiding their doings from the press

  2. brain_overclocked on

    >White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt says “all orders” from President Trump are “lawful orders,” and troops have no right to question him.

    >“All lawful—all orders—lawful orders are presumed to be legal by our service members. You can’t have a functioning military if there is disorder and chaos within the ranks,” Leavitt told reporters outside the White House on Monday. “And that’s what these Democrat members were encouraging. It’s very clear. And not a single one of them since they’ve been pressed by the media … can point to a single illegal order that this administration has given down because it does not exist.

    >“You can’t have a soldier out on the battlefield or conducting a classified order questioning whether that order is lawful or whether they should follow through,” Leavitt argued earlier, in a twisted reading of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

    So, Karoline Leavitt, when Trump gets bored of you or becomes displeased and orders the military to detain *you* without due process, or worse, will you keep defending it as a “legal” order?

    >Unfortunately for the White House’s arguments, there have been illegal orders to the military from the Trump administration. Just last week, a federal judge ruled that Trump’s deployment of the National Guard into Washington, D.C., was illegal. But Leavitt is doing what she does best: mindlessly supporting and justifying everything the president does.

  3. There was a consensus among Pentagon lawyers that the bombings of boats off the coast of Venezuela were illegal. The consensus lawyers got fired.

  4. “all orders” from President Trump are “lawful orders,” and troops have no right to question him.

    Jaja, Führer befiehl, wir folgen.

  5. ImWatchingTelevision on

    “Orders from the lawful chain-of-command are presumed lawful. If a reasonable person would recognize the
    wrongfulness of the act or order, even in light of a soldier’s general duty to obey, then the order is “manifestly
    illegal”, and soldiers have a duty to disobey it.”

  6. >you can’t have a functioning military […] you can’t have a soldier […] questioning whether that order is lawful or whether they should follow through,”

    Ya know, she’s right.

    That’s why it was always absolutely important that the President be thoroughly advised and avoid any encroachment on something that could be construed as an illegal order.

    Because if the President is careless, reckless or has malign intent, the military isn’t supposed to be rules-lawyering their orders. They’ll either reject the civilian control of the institution, or they’ll be complicit – and once they’re OK with breaking ‘some’ laws, you don’t get to decide for them which other elements of the Constitution are optional.

  7. If you have to claim they’re legal, they’re not.

    The strikes on boats in the Caribbean are all illegal; no real information, no real innate and immediate risk, in international waters, without reason. It’s just plain murder, and the Trump admin should rot in prison for it. Additionally, the naval officers who received that order and carried it out are also in legal jeopardy, and should be court martialed for it, as well. A strike on civilian boats without warning or due care is still a war crime.

    Just because they fired most of JAG doesn’t make it not illegal.

  8. The WH says a lot of shit that isn’t true, as I was reminded during my last trip to buy groceries.

  9. The most corrupt WH in the history of America declares all of Trump’s orders to the military are legal. Great… That orange thing in the WH won’t last forever, and these “legal” actions will have to be answered for. Good luck with that.

  10. c4upinhisbhole on

    All of my military orders are legal too. See how I did that. Anyone can play this dumbass game.

  11. Unique-Coffee5087 on

    >On the 23 March 1933, Hitler proposed the Enabling Law to the Reichstag. This new law gave Hitler the power to rule by decree rather than passing laws through the Reichstag and the president. If passed, the law would establish the conditions needed for dictatorial rule.

    [https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power/how-did-the-nazi-gain-power/the-enabling-law/](https://www.theholocaustexplained.org/the-nazi-rise-to-power/how-did-the-nazi-gain-power/the-enabling-law/)

  12. That is NOT how law works. Trump thinks he is already King. HOW MUCH MORE of this crap are we expected to endure??

  13. The way the Whitehouse has been acting since the add makes me believe there is already Military members refusing orders and are panicked it will spread.

  14. Trick-Set-1165 on

    >All lawful—all orders—lawful orders are presumed to be legal by our service members.

    That’s sort of true, actually. Orders are presumed to be lawful. The only way most servicemembers are going to find themselves in trouble is if they follow a clearly unlawful order.

    > And not a single one of them since they’ve been pressed by the media … can point to a single illegal order that this administration has given down because it does not exist.

    See, **that’s** where she’s wrong.

    Those orders to nationalize and deploy the National Guard that got blocked in court? Those were illegal orders. Patently.

  15. ShareGlittering1502 on

    What was that thing the French did when kings thought they had more power than they deserve?

  16. TakenIsUsernameThis on

    Can someone ask him, in front of reporters, if that means that he can legally order the military to execute people wearing MAGA hats?

  17. Choice-of-SteinsGate on

    This is exactly what those Democrats who the Trump administration has deemed “seditious traitors” were warning us about.

    This would be comical if it wasn’t so disturbing.

  18. Saucy_Baconator on

    Then I would also like to state that I now own all real estate in the Continental US. See? Anyone can make a bold claim, but unless it’s actually legal, you may as well be pissing into the wind. Laws exist for a reason.

  19. Strong Richard Nixon vibes here. “If the president does it it’s not illegal”.

    This man must be stopped. He’s monster.

  20. BigDaddySodaPop on

    Nope. I took an oath to support and defend the constitution and to obey the orders of the President. But if the President’s orders conflict with the constitution, then I’m legally bound not to obey. Now the hard part is determining which orders are illegal…and do you take that chance….YES.

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