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  1. Silent-Resort-3076 on

    Various snippets:

    * Former military lawyer Todd Huntley, director of the national security law program at Georgetown Law, said a decision to kill all the boat’s helpless passengers “would in essence be an order to show no quarter, which would be a war crime.”
    * He told the Post that killing any of the people on the boat “amounts to murder.”
    * Chief Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell said the “entire narrative is completely false.”
    * He added: “Ongoing operations to dismantle narcoterrorism and to protect the Homeland from deadly drugs have been a resounding success.”
    * “They’re breaking the law either way,” Sarah Harrison, a former associate general counsel at the Pentagon, told CNN.
    * “They’re killing civilians in the first place, and then if you assume they’re combatants, it’s also unlawful—under the law of armed conflict, if somebody is ‘hors de combat’ and no longer able to fight, then they have to be treated humanely.”
    * The U.K. has stopped sharing intelligence about the movements of suspected drug traffickers in the Caribbean because it believes the U.S. military action is illegal.

  2. Service members better smarten up and realize that it is their duty to disobey illegal orders and it doesn’t get any more illegal than following the order to kill survivors, not only is it against US law it’s also against international law and the Genova convention.

  3. In an ideal world, Whiskey Pete gets detained on his next European junket by a country with a better grasp of international law.

  4. Honestly, if even military law experts are calling it murder, then this isn’t some ‘fog of war’ excuse anymore…it’s straight up accountability time. You can’t preach rule of law globally while ignoring it at home. If commanders can just order follow-up strikes on survivors with Zero consequence, what message does that send?

  5. Ok-Lets-Talk-It-Out on

    *Rule 47. Attacking persons who are recognized as hors de combat is prohibited. A person hors de combat is:*

    *(a) anyone who is in the power of an adverse party;*

    **(b) anyone who is defenceless because of unconsciousness, shipwreck, wounds or sickness; or**

    *(c) anyone who clearly expresses an intention to surrender;
    provided he or she abstains from any hostile act and does not attempt to escape*

    https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/customary-ihl/v1/rule47

  6. justbecauseyoumademe on

    Doubletapping civilians that have not been convicted of any crimes is by itself a crime against humanity 

  7. Turbulent-Pea-8826 on

    This is why the military officers needed to be reminded to not follow unlawful orders. The Captain of the ship that carried out that strike should also be prosecuted along with Kegsworth.

  8. Various-Salt488 on

    It’s shit like this and the autopen thing today that guarantees they have no plans on leaving EVER. Pete will be held accountable and if Trump abrogated all of Biden’s signed documents, the next guy can do the same to Trump. The USA is a frog in boiling water and just waiting around for things to get better. They won’t get better unless the majority of citizens fight back.

  9. I hate drug gangs, but this is fucking piracy, murder, and crimes against humanity. We literally hung people for this back in the day. There are laws, and our government is acting like the biggest fucking criminal on the high seas. I live abroad, so maybe I shouldn’t speak out of turn, but the fact that we Americans are not literally revolting in the streets with fucking machine guns right now is fucking unbelievable. For a country which encouraged other people to do this in their own tyrranical nations for eighty years, and then to turn around and say that we are not going to do that ourselves is the the biggest fucking hypocrisy I have ever seen. Ever. It is fucking astounding. Every American should be fucking ashamed. I sure the fuck am.

  10. this would also on its face be an illegal order, meaning everyone involved would be responsible.

    that being said, the idea that drugs are somehow arms and these people are combatants is also absurd.

  11. Careful-Rent5779 on

    Beter that no witnesses survive (/s).

    Or cource it makes Kelly’s (and others) warnings about not following illegal orders more relavent. Targeting an alleged drug boat is one thing. Killing helpless survivours is another thing entirely. Service persons invloved in any follow-up attack are equally cupable.

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