And if we’re not at war, then it’s just straight up premeditated murder.
Historical_Bend_2629 on
It is just crime. Murder. There is no war declared.
ScottHoward1 on
Pretty idiotic not try and take them alive to interrogate them. The only logical explanation is that they don’t want witnesses to testify to what really is happening
schu4KSU on
The first strike was a war crime.
20ol on
I don’t trust Tim Kaine to do shit. He sided with Trump to gouge Americans on healthcare
Historical_Bend_2629 on
“Alleged drug boat” is called a boat. With people on it. Blown up, murdered people. War crime implies there is a declared war. This just looks like chest-beaters using people for target practice, and pre-meditated. And even if they were smuggling drugs, there needs to be probable cause for arrest. And due process. Transparency. And this is in international waters, a small boat, and not posing a direct threat. “War crimes” is pretty terrible, and that term seems to seek to sane-wash these repeated actions.
Doubling down in the face of being exposed is the only way this adminstration knows how to respond.
BeerExchange on
Brother the US has been committing war crimes for decades and nobody holds anyone responsible.
Vanilla_Either on
The first strike was probably a warcrime too
adminhotep on
Time to stop reporting on what people say and report on what happened.
Multiple news orgs claim Hegseth gave a verbal order to “kill them all”
Nobody disputes that 2 strikes occurred, with one after the complete destruction of the vessel.
This makes the act illegal under any designation of the state of conflict or the status of the boat and its crew prior to the first strike.
Media should report these facts as facts. Not quotes.
el_coo_cooi on
Turns out the first strike was also a war crime
topplehat on
Doesn’t the first strike?
Horror_Ad7540 on
The attacks are war crimes (or maybe just crimes, since there is no war) whether or not there was a follow-up attack.
Every-Comfortable632 on
Does the US even recognize war crimes? Feels like a term that gets thrown around all the time, yet, crickets.
Alwaystired254 on
So what? Let’s not act like it’s 2010. This is America. Who is gonna do shit about it?
JaRuleTheDamaja on
It’s not just a war crime, it’s yet another attempt at regime change of a sovereign nation.
I don’t think Democrats really give a shit about this, just posturing and political theatre.
IrishThree on
Caving on the government shutdown with no concessions was a crime against his constituents. I dont want to hear from Mr. Kaine
greengeezer56 on
Sen.Kain should STFU. His opinion is worthless.
Nearbyatom on
Well they’ll get away with said crime unless someone with the guts will charge them.
Raspberries-Are-Evil on
The first strike is a fucking crime.
MarinerJoe3 on
You mean like the hundreds of examples we have of Israel bombing an area then when people come to help the wounded they bomb them again? The US is completely fine with that
Old_Spice_2023 on
And who do you think will hold who is responsible and what actions will be taken, if any? I’m gonna say… no one and nothing. The majority will cover for the FELON
Jimbo415650 on
Probably used the signal app no documentation available
DaBingeGirl on
It’s murder. Call him what he is, a murderer and hold him accountable in court. If he’s not prosecuted now, it better fucking happen if Democrats ever get back in power. Everyone involved in these killings needs to be held accountable.
objectlesson on
I’m sure Chuck and the rest of the Dems are drafting a very strongly worded letter right now
sparcusa50 on
These people are not combatants, they are fishermen. This is murder. The burden of proof is on the administration. Show us the drugs you lying , murdering sack of shit.
RandyMuscle on
The first strike was also a war crime. Why the hell are we framing it like this? Every single one of these strikes on these boats has been a war crime.
Hot_Singer_4266 on
This is why the Democratic congressional members reminded USMIL they should not follow illegal orders. That drone/aircraft pilot who pulled the second trigger should be terrified right now
Direct-Classroom7420 on
Murderers,grifters & thieves.
CountOnBeingAwesome on
Who followed through with that order?
Deluxe78 on
Does it at least equal bombing a pharmaceutical company? And getting a peace prize?
TuMoch on
Who is going to prosecute this it? I see a preemptive pardon.
CryptoCentric on
Add it to the list.
Bronzeshadow on
Oh so murder is a-okay as long as you get them on the first shot? Give me a break.
No_Biscotti_7110 on
I’m really glad Tim Kaine legitimized this war criminal and helped pass his legislation, great decision Tim
galloway188 on
Whatever tim kaine!
This is the guy that voted with republicans to end the shutdown.
You should be ashamed and I hope your ass gets voted out!
asmallerflame on
Did the Senator say what he’s willing to do about it?
MsMoreCowbell828 on
Tim Kaine is a walking war crime.
AbleCap5222 on
It’s either a war crime or murder and Hegseth and everyone involved needs to be indicted in the future
c0mputar on
Why are left-wing outlets still reporting on Tim Kaine? Didn’t he vote with the Republicans the other week?
I’m sure another Democrat said the same thing about these strikes, so how about the Democratic base not Tim to rehabilitate his image?
Just an outside observer here but no wonder politicians don’t give af about voters
Regular_Safety5759 on
First strike was a crime to begin with. We are not at war with Venezuela.
Dr-Kloop-MD on
I dunno man. I’m of the opinion that it was a war crime at the first strike.
VisionsOfVisions on
Well, everything that the president orders is legal under presidential immunity, right Supreme Court?
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And if we’re not at war, then it’s just straight up premeditated murder.
It is just crime. Murder. There is no war declared.
Pretty idiotic not try and take them alive to interrogate them. The only logical explanation is that they don’t want witnesses to testify to what really is happening
The first strike was a war crime.
I don’t trust Tim Kaine to do shit. He sided with Trump to gouge Americans on healthcare
“Alleged drug boat” is called a boat. With people on it. Blown up, murdered people. War crime implies there is a declared war. This just looks like chest-beaters using people for target practice, and pre-meditated. And even if they were smuggling drugs, there needs to be probable cause for arrest. And due process. Transparency. And this is in international waters, a small boat, and not posing a direct threat. “War crimes” is pretty terrible, and that term seems to seek to sane-wash these repeated actions.
>*Hegseth* [*called*](https://x.com/SecWar/status/1994552598142038358?s=20) *the reporting “fabricated, inflammatory and derogatory,”*
Doubling down in the face of being exposed is the only way this adminstration knows how to respond.
Brother the US has been committing war crimes for decades and nobody holds anyone responsible.
The first strike was probably a warcrime too
Time to stop reporting on what people say and report on what happened.
Multiple news orgs claim Hegseth gave a verbal order to “kill them all”
Nobody disputes that 2 strikes occurred, with one after the complete destruction of the vessel.
This makes the act illegal under any designation of the state of conflict or the status of the boat and its crew prior to the first strike.
Media should report these facts as facts. Not quotes.
Turns out the first strike was also a war crime
Doesn’t the first strike?
The attacks are war crimes (or maybe just crimes, since there is no war) whether or not there was a follow-up attack.
Does the US even recognize war crimes? Feels like a term that gets thrown around all the time, yet, crickets.
So what? Let’s not act like it’s 2010. This is America. Who is gonna do shit about it?
It’s not just a war crime, it’s yet another attempt at regime change of a sovereign nation.
I don’t think Democrats really give a shit about this, just posturing and political theatre.
Caving on the government shutdown with no concessions was a crime against his constituents. I dont want to hear from Mr. Kaine
Sen.Kain should STFU. His opinion is worthless.
Well they’ll get away with said crime unless someone with the guts will charge them.
The first strike is a fucking crime.
You mean like the hundreds of examples we have of Israel bombing an area then when people come to help the wounded they bomb them again? The US is completely fine with that
And who do you think will hold who is responsible and what actions will be taken, if any? I’m gonna say… no one and nothing. The majority will cover for the FELON
Probably used the signal app no documentation available
It’s murder. Call him what he is, a murderer and hold him accountable in court. If he’s not prosecuted now, it better fucking happen if Democrats ever get back in power. Everyone involved in these killings needs to be held accountable.
I’m sure Chuck and the rest of the Dems are drafting a very strongly worded letter right now
These people are not combatants, they are fishermen. This is murder. The burden of proof is on the administration. Show us the drugs you lying , murdering sack of shit.
The first strike was also a war crime. Why the hell are we framing it like this? Every single one of these strikes on these boats has been a war crime.
This is why the Democratic congressional members reminded USMIL they should not follow illegal orders. That drone/aircraft pilot who pulled the second trigger should be terrified right now
Murderers,grifters & thieves.
Who followed through with that order?
Does it at least equal bombing a pharmaceutical company? And getting a peace prize?
Who is going to prosecute this it? I see a preemptive pardon.
Add it to the list.
Oh so murder is a-okay as long as you get them on the first shot? Give me a break.
I’m really glad Tim Kaine legitimized this war criminal and helped pass his legislation, great decision Tim
Whatever tim kaine!
This is the guy that voted with republicans to end the shutdown.
You should be ashamed and I hope your ass gets voted out!
Did the Senator say what he’s willing to do about it?
Tim Kaine is a walking war crime.
It’s either a war crime or murder and Hegseth and everyone involved needs to be indicted in the future
Why are left-wing outlets still reporting on Tim Kaine? Didn’t he vote with the Republicans the other week?
I’m sure another Democrat said the same thing about these strikes, so how about the Democratic base not Tim to rehabilitate his image?
Just an outside observer here but no wonder politicians don’t give af about voters
First strike was a crime to begin with. We are not at war with Venezuela.
I dunno man. I’m of the opinion that it was a war crime at the first strike.
Well, everything that the president orders is legal under presidential immunity, right Supreme Court?