How does both our President and the Secretary of Defense get to say “I wasn’t aware that happened” about our military f*cking murdering people?
NamelessResearcher on
I thought they were gang members, and they deserved to die, and you took responsibility for their deaths. Make up your minds.
Bromance_Rayder on
Let the games begin.
Significant_Cup_238 on
Sounds like a lot of people should be prosecuted, and not just because of the second strike. The first strike was an absolute crime.
immortalfrieza2 on
To be fair, the Admiral had the duty to refuse the illegal orders and should be prosecuted. The Admiral was in the position to know exactly what he was being ordered to attack, as were multiple people down the chain. Hegseth shouldn’t get off either, though I’ve sure he is at the thought of having murdered people.
KantPaine on
Let this be a warning to any serviceman who are getting orders from this administration. You are a pawn and you will be used as a scapegoat at the first opportunity. You will not be protected.
Shiplord13 on
The buck stops with someone else every time before it hits President Fascist and his Inner Circle of incompetent and corrupt stooges.
civil_politician on
This is why you shouldn’t follow the illegal fucking orders
SmolishPPman on
Oh, so now suddenly, the president *doesn’t* control the military?
Clean_Assumption_186 on
Question for military nerds:
They keep referring to these attacks as “kinetic strikes.” Google tells me that that term refers to a weapon that uses kinetic energy (like a bullet) rather than an explosive missile. All the footage of these boat strikes look like explosions. Are these truly “kinetic strikes,” or does the Trump admin just like saying those words because it sounds scary and badass?
lemmylemonlemming on
Secretary Hegseth, did you order the code red?
TheTallestTexan on
I hope the now 88 year-old Seymour Hersh is spinning up a journalistic masterclass on the inside story of this
SnooMacarons1185 on
Admiral Alvin Holsey, who headed the U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) and oversaw military operations in the Caribbean, resigned in late 2025 after about a year in the role. Smart man.
minus2cats on
not like the admiral doesn’t deserve it though, they are murderers too.
ramdomvariableX on
Another reminder why Military should not follow illegal orders.
Dr_PocketSand on
The entire chain of command is guilty of a war crime / multiple murders. THE ENTIRE CHAIN.
kittenTakeover on
The whole upper chain of command should be under the bus.
wswordsmen on
Considering this situation is literally the example of an obviously illegal order, the only real defense is “I am in the chain of command but was bypassed.” The pilot, CAW and Captain of the carrier, admiral in charge of the fleet, head of the navy and chairman of the joint chiefs should all be held responsible unless they can prove the order bypassed them.
10390 on
This is why you disobey unlawful orders.
Diced_and_Confused on
And now you know why the smart admiral resigned.
PterodactylTeef on
This is just one reason you shouldn’t follow illegal orders. He should be prosecuted as much as Hesgeth and Trump.
deschain_19195 on
And this is why you don’t follow illegal orders
Careful-Rent5779 on
This could be the crack in the Dam that fails.
Ultimately, Admiral Bradley (likely) gave illegal orders down his command chain. But if he goes down for this don’t expect him to just fall on his sword and say “*Yeah the orders orginated with me*”. It won’t exonerate his behavior but if he was also given orders it will come to light in the end.
1Rab on
I listened to this live and had the same thought right away. All the sudden, “We believe the ADMIRAL was well within his rights.” Suddenly this is all on the Admiral. They decided they needed a fall man.
UziMcUsername on
I don’t think we can trust leavitt to know the true story or relay it. She’s probably spewing what trump told her. In any case, the former admiral resigning dodged a bullet
Ok-disaster2022 on
And this is why you don’t follow illegal orders.
Regardless though everyvofficer in the kill chain should be charged with war crimes murder and conduct unbecoming and spend the rest of their life in military prison breaking rocks, as an example to all others: do not follow illegal orders
Hushes on
Exhibit A on why you should not follow unlawful orders. Dude’s an admiral. When the time comes, he will liquidate his assets paying for lawyers and still do time at Leavenworth. 30 years later, one of his kids will write a book about why they had to go to community college because the family was broke. How do I know? Because we have seen this movie! Pffft. Seriously? How many of y’all still need to touch the stove to see if it’s hot?
indorian on
Admiral Bradley took the oath and knows the rules, and that second strike (and any subsequent) was against them. Trump may not care for rules, nor Hegseth, but if our military leaders begin to forget them we are in serious trouble.
mystikmike on
The Buck Stops…… over THERE! HE DID IT! I KNOW NOTHING!
kevendo on
The clear lesson here to all military folks is *do not follow illegal orders*, not just because they are illegal and wrong but because Trump and Hegseth have now demonstrated that they will absolutely scapegoat you when it’s all found out.
jmitch651 on
That general that resigned earlier is looking like a genius now!
cpas2b on
White House Throws Admiral Under The Boat…. not Bus… it was right there for the taking HuffPost.
mxjxs91 on
I don’t feel bad for the admiral in the slightest.
ViolettaQueso on
Who gave this admiral his orders??? And what about the general in the area who QUIT
tatermit on
This is why the Dems put out that video. Drunk pete and orange doodle will not be the ones held responsible, it will be our soldiers. It is up to them to understand lawful and unlawful orders. They need to assert their dominance or step down. We need officers who understand the constitution and the consequences of not living up to their duty and oath to the constitution.
bailaoban on
Hopefully this is a useful lesson to our military brass about who will be left holding the bag when they are asked to execute illegal orders.
Alwaystired254 on
Just glad Hegseth didn’t order it and Trump didn’t know about it. That would have been really bad
worldscollice on
I’m pretty sure an Admiral wouldn’t murder these people without direct orders from Hegseth. Let’s take them all to court and have them testify under oath. That’s an easy solution to get to the bottom of these murders.
Dr_Tacopus on
Remember this military leadership. This is how you’re treated for following illegal orders. Don’t do it
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How does both our President and the Secretary of Defense get to say “I wasn’t aware that happened” about our military f*cking murdering people?
I thought they were gang members, and they deserved to die, and you took responsibility for their deaths. Make up your minds.
Let the games begin.
Sounds like a lot of people should be prosecuted, and not just because of the second strike. The first strike was an absolute crime.
To be fair, the Admiral had the duty to refuse the illegal orders and should be prosecuted. The Admiral was in the position to know exactly what he was being ordered to attack, as were multiple people down the chain. Hegseth shouldn’t get off either, though I’ve sure he is at the thought of having murdered people.
Let this be a warning to any serviceman who are getting orders from this administration. You are a pawn and you will be used as a scapegoat at the first opportunity. You will not be protected.
The buck stops with someone else every time before it hits President Fascist and his Inner Circle of incompetent and corrupt stooges.
This is why you shouldn’t follow the illegal fucking orders
Oh, so now suddenly, the president *doesn’t* control the military?
Question for military nerds:
They keep referring to these attacks as “kinetic strikes.” Google tells me that that term refers to a weapon that uses kinetic energy (like a bullet) rather than an explosive missile. All the footage of these boat strikes look like explosions. Are these truly “kinetic strikes,” or does the Trump admin just like saying those words because it sounds scary and badass?
Secretary Hegseth, did you order the code red?
I hope the now 88 year-old Seymour Hersh is spinning up a journalistic masterclass on the inside story of this
Admiral Alvin Holsey, who headed the U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) and oversaw military operations in the Caribbean, resigned in late 2025 after about a year in the role. Smart man.
not like the admiral doesn’t deserve it though, they are murderers too.
Another reminder why Military should not follow illegal orders.
The entire chain of command is guilty of a war crime / multiple murders. THE ENTIRE CHAIN.
The whole upper chain of command should be under the bus.
Considering this situation is literally the example of an obviously illegal order, the only real defense is “I am in the chain of command but was bypassed.” The pilot, CAW and Captain of the carrier, admiral in charge of the fleet, head of the navy and chairman of the joint chiefs should all be held responsible unless they can prove the order bypassed them.
This is why you disobey unlawful orders.
And now you know why the smart admiral resigned.
This is just one reason you shouldn’t follow illegal orders. He should be prosecuted as much as Hesgeth and Trump.
And this is why you don’t follow illegal orders
This could be the crack in the Dam that fails.
Ultimately, Admiral Bradley (likely) gave illegal orders down his command chain. But if he goes down for this don’t expect him to just fall on his sword and say “*Yeah the orders orginated with me*”. It won’t exonerate his behavior but if he was also given orders it will come to light in the end.
I listened to this live and had the same thought right away. All the sudden, “We believe the ADMIRAL was well within his rights.” Suddenly this is all on the Admiral. They decided they needed a fall man.
I don’t think we can trust leavitt to know the true story or relay it. She’s probably spewing what trump told her. In any case, the former admiral resigning dodged a bullet
And this is why you don’t follow illegal orders.
Regardless though everyvofficer in the kill chain should be charged with war crimes murder and conduct unbecoming and spend the rest of their life in military prison breaking rocks, as an example to all others: do not follow illegal orders
Exhibit A on why you should not follow unlawful orders. Dude’s an admiral. When the time comes, he will liquidate his assets paying for lawyers and still do time at Leavenworth. 30 years later, one of his kids will write a book about why they had to go to community college because the family was broke. How do I know? Because we have seen this movie! Pffft. Seriously? How many of y’all still need to touch the stove to see if it’s hot?
Admiral Bradley took the oath and knows the rules, and that second strike (and any subsequent) was against them. Trump may not care for rules, nor Hegseth, but if our military leaders begin to forget them we are in serious trouble.
The Buck Stops…… over THERE! HE DID IT! I KNOW NOTHING!
The clear lesson here to all military folks is *do not follow illegal orders*, not just because they are illegal and wrong but because Trump and Hegseth have now demonstrated that they will absolutely scapegoat you when it’s all found out.
That general that resigned earlier is looking like a genius now!
White House Throws Admiral Under The Boat…. not Bus… it was right there for the taking HuffPost.
I don’t feel bad for the admiral in the slightest.
Who gave this admiral his orders??? And what about the general in the area who QUIT
This is why the Dems put out that video. Drunk pete and orange doodle will not be the ones held responsible, it will be our soldiers. It is up to them to understand lawful and unlawful orders. They need to assert their dominance or step down. We need officers who understand the constitution and the consequences of not living up to their duty and oath to the constitution.
Hopefully this is a useful lesson to our military brass about who will be left holding the bag when they are asked to execute illegal orders.
Just glad Hegseth didn’t order it and Trump didn’t know about it. That would have been really bad
I’m pretty sure an Admiral wouldn’t murder these people without direct orders from Hegseth. Let’s take them all to court and have them testify under oath. That’s an easy solution to get to the bottom of these murders.
Remember this military leadership. This is how you’re treated for following illegal orders. Don’t do it