At this point his whole strategy is just hoping people stop paying attention, which is honestly adorable in a very unfortunate way. Every new detail makes his defense sink faster.
Grim_Discipline on
A lot of people need to go to jail. I hope there are people that are up to task.
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neloish on
Anyone who believes this headline is a fool, even the democrats say they not seeking impeachment.
willybestbuy86 on
Whoops
anonyquestions1 on
It’s also amazing that we’re discussing whether the second strike was legal when the first strike was CLEARLY ILLEGAL. You can’t just missile people you think might be dealing drugs. Imagine if police saw drug dealers on the corner and just started blasting.
ChinookKing on
Lets see the video.
Murky_Chocolate_7916 on
Dumbfuck still won’t be punished though.
Conscious-Fee7844 on
But the admiral already said Kegsshit didnt order it. So wont that basically absolve him and Trump of any wrong doing.. and put the onus on the admiral?
liquidgrill on
Meanwhile, all the Republicans that have seen the video are already saying they’re satisfied with the legality of it.
Nothing is going to come of this. As usual.
BioDriver on
>Yet here it gets even worse. The laws of war generally prohibit the killing of people who are no longer “in the fight” in any meaningful sense, specifically including the shipwrecked. But these lawmakers were told in the closed-door briefing that the two men were still deemed to be “in the fight” by virtue of the fact that there could have been still-transmittable drugs in the capsized and wrecked boat, Smith says. And that those two men sitting atop the wreckage could have continued with their delivery of them.
>“The evidence that I’ve seen absolutely demands a further and continued investigation,” Smith told me. “It strains credibility to say that they were still in the fight.”
>This badly undermines the story Hegseth has told. He has said that he did not see the two men before the second strike was ordered, suggesting both that he’d gone off to do other things and that the “fog of war” had prevented a clear viewing of the two men.
>Obviously what these lawmakers saw contradicts the latter suggestion: The two men were, in Smith’s telling, very visible, so the “fog of war” line appears to be nonsense. And Hegseth’s implication that the strike was justified due to confusion about the men’s status also appears to be in profound doubt.
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>But they did say that Hegseth’s declared mission was to kill all 11 people, Smith notes. “It was, ‘Destroy the drugs, kill all 11 people on board,’” Smith told me. “It is not that inaccurate to say that the rules of engagement from Hegseth were, ‘Kill all 11 people on that boat.’” And so, by all indications, that second strike appears to have been ordered to comply with Hegseth’s command.
This is 1000% a war crime starting from Hegseth. Send them all to the Hague.
ZLUCremisi on
Admiral and Hegseth both should face prison fir life.
nwgdad on
According to Tom Cotton (R) he “saw two survivors trying to flip a boat, loaded with drugs bound for the United States, back over so they could stay in the fight.”
This is confirmation of a shipwreck. The very example used in the directive detailing what determines an illegal operation.
There is also an inherent lie in his statement. The claim that they were flipping over a boat ‘loaded with drugs’ is a lie because the boat was cabinless and any drugs that *may have been* in the boat would have been lost as a result of the capsizing.
throwaway9198675309 on
We are in clear danger now – It’s quite clear at this point that laws mean nothing to this administration. Laws are only weapons to be used against opponents, and plenty of judges and the supreme court are totally willing to play along.
From the midterms it’s clear that a lot of voters are fed up. But I have no doubt we will have to counter all sorts of illegal actions, cheating and violence in the next election.
Think of all the crooks in power right now that will go to jail if they lose. They would be stupid not to be planning how to throw the election – in the interest of self preservation. And the laws mean nothing to them.
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At this point his whole strategy is just hoping people stop paying attention, which is honestly adorable in a very unfortunate way. Every new detail makes his defense sink faster.
A lot of people need to go to jail. I hope there are people that are up to task.
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Anyone who believes this headline is a fool, even the democrats say they not seeking impeachment.
Whoops
It’s also amazing that we’re discussing whether the second strike was legal when the first strike was CLEARLY ILLEGAL. You can’t just missile people you think might be dealing drugs. Imagine if police saw drug dealers on the corner and just started blasting.
Lets see the video.
Dumbfuck still won’t be punished though.
But the admiral already said Kegsshit didnt order it. So wont that basically absolve him and Trump of any wrong doing.. and put the onus on the admiral?
Meanwhile, all the Republicans that have seen the video are already saying they’re satisfied with the legality of it.
Nothing is going to come of this. As usual.
>Yet here it gets even worse. The laws of war generally prohibit the killing of people who are no longer “in the fight” in any meaningful sense, specifically including the shipwrecked. But these lawmakers were told in the closed-door briefing that the two men were still deemed to be “in the fight” by virtue of the fact that there could have been still-transmittable drugs in the capsized and wrecked boat, Smith says. And that those two men sitting atop the wreckage could have continued with their delivery of them.
>“The evidence that I’ve seen absolutely demands a further and continued investigation,” Smith told me. “It strains credibility to say that they were still in the fight.”
>This badly undermines the story Hegseth has told. He has said that he did not see the two men before the second strike was ordered, suggesting both that he’d gone off to do other things and that the “fog of war” had prevented a clear viewing of the two men.
>Obviously what these lawmakers saw contradicts the latter suggestion: The two men were, in Smith’s telling, very visible, so the “fog of war” line appears to be nonsense. And Hegseth’s implication that the strike was justified due to confusion about the men’s status also appears to be in profound doubt.
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>But they did say that Hegseth’s declared mission was to kill all 11 people, Smith notes. “It was, ‘Destroy the drugs, kill all 11 people on board,’” Smith told me. “It is not that inaccurate to say that the rules of engagement from Hegseth were, ‘Kill all 11 people on that boat.’” And so, by all indications, that second strike appears to have been ordered to comply with Hegseth’s command.
This is 1000% a war crime starting from Hegseth. Send them all to the Hague.
Admiral and Hegseth both should face prison fir life.
According to Tom Cotton (R) he “saw two survivors trying to flip a boat, loaded with drugs bound for the United States, back over so they could stay in the fight.”
This is confirmation of a shipwreck. The very example used in the directive detailing what determines an illegal operation.
There is also an inherent lie in his statement. The claim that they were flipping over a boat ‘loaded with drugs’ is a lie because the boat was cabinless and any drugs that *may have been* in the boat would have been lost as a result of the capsizing.
We are in clear danger now – It’s quite clear at this point that laws mean nothing to this administration. Laws are only weapons to be used against opponents, and plenty of judges and the supreme court are totally willing to play along.
From the midterms it’s clear that a lot of voters are fed up. But I have no doubt we will have to counter all sorts of illegal actions, cheating and violence in the next election.
Think of all the crooks in power right now that will go to jail if they lose. They would be stupid not to be planning how to throw the election – in the interest of self preservation. And the laws mean nothing to them.