An hour?! The people who ordered these attacks and the people who carried them out can fuck all the way off to Hell.
FlirtNPlayy on
if “mistakes” keep hitting the same life raft twie, maybe stop calling them mistakes.
WombatusMighty on
I really do hope the soldiers, who carried out these illegal orders, and admiral Frank Bradley, who gave the orders, remember that “just following orders” does not shield you from prosecution.
I also hope that Democrats, if they get in power again, will not forget this and make sure these crimes are fully investigated and prosecuted.
Diknak on
woah, that’s kind of a big deal. That means that there was plenty of time for debate at various levels of command.
CowboyNeale on
Disgusting
Ouch_Wince on
Now we know how “Jaws” would’ve ended, if Pete Hegseth were in charge and had his way.
Minguseyes on
Lucky they got them. Those survivors clinging to the wreckage were clear threats to the US.
Apathetic_Zealot on
Which dipshit senator said they were trying to get back in the fight? He needs to be tested for psychopathy.
Antipolemic on
The fact that they refuse to pick up survivors is the most damning evidence that they know all this is a fraud, is illegal, and is in violation of international norms. If any of this were a legitimate “war on narco-traffickers”, they’d pick up survivors and interrogate them. They are missing an important opportunity for discovery on how these operations work, the leadership, and their goals. But the administration is afraid to do this normal investigatory and intelligence work because they fear that Congress will find out exactly what everyone suspects – they don’t have such fine intelligence guiding these strikes and they are just hitting any boats leaving the mainland that “look like” smugglers. As Captain Willard says to Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now when Kurtz asks him if his methods are unsound, Willard famously replies “I don’t see any method at all.”
Safe_Climate883 on
How can you get an order like that and not wonder whether it’d the proper thing to do?
Backfisttothepast on
But…buut….the fog of war was there for an entire hour,anything could have been under that other boat,even another boat!
MiddleAgedSponger on
American political appointees and his underlings murdered peasants with zero repercussions.
Mutajin on
Call the world police…oh wait…
FinsterFolly on
~~Fog of War excuse.~~
ResponsibleEditor986 on
This is a moral stain on America that cannot be ignored or forgotten.
Not_EdM on
Sick motherfuckers
xVarekai on
I feel sick. It was bad enough as it was but I innocently and ignorantly thought it was a fast follow up. Leaving those people to linger in the ocean, clinging to wreckage and probably gravely wounded as it was, spending the last hour of their lives suffering like this only to be bombed to death. And no I dont give a fuck if that little boat was stuffed with drugs. This is horrifically inhumane and the fact that our military obeyed these orders is extremely disturbing. Jesus christ.
OnDrugsTonight on
>Tom Cotton of Arkansas, the Republican chair of the Senate intelligence committee, said: “I saw two survivors trying to flip a boat, loaded with drugs bound for the United States, back over so they could stay in the fight.”
Ok, Tom, walk us through the process then how two unarmed, shirtless, scared men drifting a thousand miles from the United States next to a boat that’s been blown to smithereens, with their cargo either sunk or ruined, would have “continued the fight” and made it absolutely necessary for the United States Armed Forces to waste four missiles on their murder.
notie547 on
an hour?? I assumed maybe a minute between strikes. Damn thats fucked.
Why don’t they just release all the evidence they have against these guys? or do they not have any?
Darth_vaborbactam on
This makes me sick to my stomach. How does the “fog of war” defense even apply here? It’s murder. Completely senseless and unjustified.
This is a critical moment in time. If the US government is unwilling to hold the perpetrators accountable, the world needs to hold to IS government accountable.
One-Eyed-Willies on
For everyone hoping that the military would ignore illegal orders, here is your answer.
insomniaczombiex on
Calling them narco-terrorists is so disingenuous. They’re smugglers, not terrorists.
The terrorists are in the White House.
bananastand512 on
First: Drug trafficking isn’t something we execute people for. Can they serve a shit ton of years in prison? Can they be apprehended at the border or at sea and their vessel searched? Yah. That’s assuming these people are trafficking drugs in the first place.
Second: Intelligence confirms illicit narcotics on board…but then the admiral says the boat stayed afloat because of a metric ton of cocaine?!? Cocaine isn’t a narcotic. It can be laced with narcotics, but by itself it is a stimulant.
These people suck.
Zeliose on
It took an hour to fire the second strike because Pete had to make a stop at his makeup room so he could look fabulous while giving illegal orders.
Chief-_-Wiggum on
They were clear and present threat to Pete… They were hanging on to their lives… MENACINGLY!
IpeeEhh_Phanatic on
I hope Kegsbreath and that admiral go to prison in the next administration
PrideofPicktown on
On an un-related note: Kate Winslet had enough room on that door to give Leo some space.
Showmethepathplease on
Yesterday i learned that these kinds of crimes led to conviction and execution for perpetrators at Nuremberg:
In March 1944, Eck, commander of U-852, sank the Greek steamer Peleus in the Atlantic Ocean.
He then ordered his crew to machine-gun and throw hand grenades at the survivors and the wreckage to “eliminate all traces of the sinking”.
Nine survivors were killed, but three miraculously survived and their testimony led to the trial.
**Eck and his defense argued that the actions were a “tactical necessity”** and crucial to the U-boat’s safety and mission stealth, claiming the wreckage and survivors’ rafts would reveal the submarine’s position to Allied aircraft.
***The court rejected the plea*** *of “operational necessity,”* ***ruling that the killing of unarmed, shipwrecked survivors was a grave breach of international law and a crime that would be obvious to “the most rudimentary intelligence” as an unlawful command.***
Eck, along with two other crew members, was found guilty and executed by firing squad in November 1945, the only German naval officers to be executed for war crimes after the war in Europe.
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An hour?! The people who ordered these attacks and the people who carried them out can fuck all the way off to Hell.
if “mistakes” keep hitting the same life raft twie, maybe stop calling them mistakes.
I really do hope the soldiers, who carried out these illegal orders, and admiral Frank Bradley, who gave the orders, remember that “just following orders” does not shield you from prosecution.
I also hope that Democrats, if they get in power again, will not forget this and make sure these crimes are fully investigated and prosecuted.
woah, that’s kind of a big deal. That means that there was plenty of time for debate at various levels of command.
Disgusting
Now we know how “Jaws” would’ve ended, if Pete Hegseth were in charge and had his way.
Lucky they got them. Those survivors clinging to the wreckage were clear threats to the US.
Which dipshit senator said they were trying to get back in the fight? He needs to be tested for psychopathy.
The fact that they refuse to pick up survivors is the most damning evidence that they know all this is a fraud, is illegal, and is in violation of international norms. If any of this were a legitimate “war on narco-traffickers”, they’d pick up survivors and interrogate them. They are missing an important opportunity for discovery on how these operations work, the leadership, and their goals. But the administration is afraid to do this normal investigatory and intelligence work because they fear that Congress will find out exactly what everyone suspects – they don’t have such fine intelligence guiding these strikes and they are just hitting any boats leaving the mainland that “look like” smugglers. As Captain Willard says to Colonel Kurtz in Apocalypse Now when Kurtz asks him if his methods are unsound, Willard famously replies “I don’t see any method at all.”
How can you get an order like that and not wonder whether it’d the proper thing to do?
But…buut….the fog of war was there for an entire hour,anything could have been under that other boat,even another boat!
American political appointees and his underlings murdered peasants with zero repercussions.
Call the world police…oh wait…
~~Fog of War excuse.~~
This is a moral stain on America that cannot be ignored or forgotten.
Sick motherfuckers
I feel sick. It was bad enough as it was but I innocently and ignorantly thought it was a fast follow up. Leaving those people to linger in the ocean, clinging to wreckage and probably gravely wounded as it was, spending the last hour of their lives suffering like this only to be bombed to death. And no I dont give a fuck if that little boat was stuffed with drugs. This is horrifically inhumane and the fact that our military obeyed these orders is extremely disturbing. Jesus christ.
>Tom Cotton of Arkansas, the Republican chair of the Senate intelligence committee, said: “I saw two survivors trying to flip a boat, loaded with drugs bound for the United States, back over so they could stay in the fight.”
Ok, Tom, walk us through the process then how two unarmed, shirtless, scared men drifting a thousand miles from the United States next to a boat that’s been blown to smithereens, with their cargo either sunk or ruined, would have “continued the fight” and made it absolutely necessary for the United States Armed Forces to waste four missiles on their murder.
an hour?? I assumed maybe a minute between strikes. Damn thats fucked.
Why don’t they just release all the evidence they have against these guys? or do they not have any?
This makes me sick to my stomach. How does the “fog of war” defense even apply here? It’s murder. Completely senseless and unjustified.
This is a critical moment in time. If the US government is unwilling to hold the perpetrators accountable, the world needs to hold to IS government accountable.
For everyone hoping that the military would ignore illegal orders, here is your answer.
Calling them narco-terrorists is so disingenuous. They’re smugglers, not terrorists.
The terrorists are in the White House.
First: Drug trafficking isn’t something we execute people for. Can they serve a shit ton of years in prison? Can they be apprehended at the border or at sea and their vessel searched? Yah. That’s assuming these people are trafficking drugs in the first place.
Second: Intelligence confirms illicit narcotics on board…but then the admiral says the boat stayed afloat because of a metric ton of cocaine?!? Cocaine isn’t a narcotic. It can be laced with narcotics, but by itself it is a stimulant.
These people suck.
It took an hour to fire the second strike because Pete had to make a stop at his makeup room so he could look fabulous while giving illegal orders.
They were clear and present threat to Pete… They were hanging on to their lives… MENACINGLY!
I hope Kegsbreath and that admiral go to prison in the next administration
On an un-related note: Kate Winslet had enough room on that door to give Leo some space.
Yesterday i learned that these kinds of crimes led to conviction and execution for perpetrators at Nuremberg:
In March 1944, Eck, commander of U-852, sank the Greek steamer Peleus in the Atlantic Ocean.
He then ordered his crew to machine-gun and throw hand grenades at the survivors and the wreckage to “eliminate all traces of the sinking”.
Nine survivors were killed, but three miraculously survived and their testimony led to the trial.
**Eck and his defense argued that the actions were a “tactical necessity”** and crucial to the U-boat’s safety and mission stealth, claiming the wreckage and survivors’ rafts would reveal the submarine’s position to Allied aircraft.
***The court rejected the plea*** *of “operational necessity,”* ***ruling that the killing of unarmed, shipwrecked survivors was a grave breach of international law and a crime that would be obvious to “the most rudimentary intelligence” as an unlawful command.***
Eck, along with two other crew members, was found guilty and executed by firing squad in November 1945, the only German naval officers to be executed for war crimes after the war in Europe.