“One disadvantage of your teenage and early adult years is that you tend to experience adversity without perspective. It’s hard to place your own experience in a larger context when you haven’t yet experienced that context.”
Routine_Tie1392 on
Have you ever watched an addict ruin their lives and the lives of everyone around them? Cause that is what is happening.
Right now America is in the middle of its decline and its only starting to look ugly, and nothing feels good anymore. Soon will come some harsh realizations, and then after than will come a brutal denial phase where the abusive addict lashes out at everyone.
Eventually there is the crashout and burnout phase where everything becomes too much to bare and rock bottom has been reached. This is the true fork in the road for the addict.
stonedhillbillyXX on
We are all on a list. Red flagged for life
Reddit sold out to train AI. They already have your comments.
You were required to submit biometric analysis for that smart ID and passport. They have facial recognition on everyone.
> If I were to have that Clubhouse conversation again, I think I’d start it differently. Rather than walking in and offering a polite challenge to debate. I’d start with an apology.
> I’m sorry that we turned against our own friends and neighbors and allowed political animosity to corrupt our hearts. I’m sorry that you grew up awash in images and rhetoric that we couldn’t handle ourselves. I’m sorry that you were told that the fate of the nation — even of Christianity itself — hangs in the balance every single election.
> I know the group I was talking to would find this cringe, but I’ll say it anyway: What I am sorriest about is that we taught you to despair.
While it’s better to see this level of self-reflection than not, it’s closing the barn door after the cow is not just out but over in the next county.
Danimalx87 on
We die.
RichDescription1459 on
tepid moderate dems, which is pretty much the only controlled/performative opposition to the fascist takeover is only hastening the collapse. it is hopeless. move out like I did 2 years ago to Scandanevia before it is too late. your country is lost.
Nevuk on
…is an apt description of the last 8 years of NYT sanewashing
GBeastETH on
WTF? I thought he was going to acknowledge how fucked up Trump and MAGA is. Instead he says “I’m sorry we let you kids get upset.”
fireeight on
Fuck off, Times. You are an enabler.
MalevolentTapir on
Propagandist terrified of delusional idiots he helped create
Cheddar-Goblin-1312 on
NYT has enabled the US death spiral, they can take their paywall and go fuck themselves.
ther_dog on
As long as it’s NIMBY and the next county/state over – most Americans aren’t collectively conscientious enough to make any discernible “change” that would move the needle towards a new and revelatory direction. Americans have been conditioned for generations to keep their heads down and forge on.
I think the only way things will change is if amendments to the constitution are made, laws governing presidential actions and fundamental reordering of economic and social priorities. Other than this, it’ll continue being like shooting fish in barrel until the very last one.
MetaBlondie on
Refuse to recognize we lost? that;s basically saying, ‘I know reality has an annoying habit of existing, but I’m just gonna ignore that part’ Modern politics now with upgraded denials settings!
Darkstar-Lord on
You enabled it, NYT
TintedApostle on
Same thing when you refuse to recognize science and evidence.
Similar_Rapier_7596 on
Fuck the NYT. They (along with many others) helped enable this shit.
They can take the article or op-ed or whatever (I haven’t clicked the link) and shove it up their collective assholes.
heyzeus1865 on
I was a loyal time subscriber for years. Fuck these fuckers and what they did to enable this to happen.
Ohuigin on
You die. Pretty simple
Stop_Gilding_Sprog on
This is over a decade too late, and features a level of nuance that you’d expect from a high school sophomore. And extra cringe too.
The argument is that American politics is rife with unnecessary anxiety and hyperbole, and this is causing irreparable division between each of us as political actors. And that this is being fueled by social media and easy access to it via smartphones, and that it’s nearly impossible to stop because it’s coming from irrationality and won’t listen to facts and figures
We’ve known this. Well, anyone with half a brain has known this. For a while.
French should focus less on how he comes off in some chat room and the imaginary benefits of his imaginary apology. It’s not worth the bread of a NYT opinion piece, and the “everyone is too scared/partisan and social media/tech/smartphones are to blame” argument is not worth its meat.
It’s disappointing work
3dsplinter on
I think the average New York Times reader gets this, it’s the 30% or so that still support Trump that don’t get it, and they’ll weigh down the lifeboats when the ship sinks.
tomparker on
I’ve been saying since Trump’s incoherent, rambling prattle back in 2016, that the US is suffering from a situation very much like when a prominent family is hit with a serious mental illness by one of its members. My opinion hasn’t changed. The particular example was so jaw-dropping, I mocked up a bronze plaque of his words and suggested that a copy be displayed at each State Capitol. My opinion hadn’t changed on that either.
tripping_yarns on
I just wish I could work out what Putin’s end game will be. It’s clear he wants to restore the former ‘glories’ of the USSR but what after that? How do China and North Korea fit in?
Unfortunately the US is a vassal state now, its only role is enabler and muscle for Russia.
andy_nony_mouse on
Just wait until the world drops the dollar as the reserve currency and our adversary start flooding the debt markets with all of our debt. That will be fun.
buttfuckedinboston on
We die.
avanross on
Empires never acknowledge their downfall until it’s over
Combine that with the “american nationalism” and abolishing of educational standards, america is going to be like north korea, 50 years behind the rest of the world but still claiming to be the greatest and best at everything, and just banning any media sources that show otherwise
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“One disadvantage of your teenage and early adult years is that you tend to experience adversity without perspective. It’s hard to place your own experience in a larger context when you haven’t yet experienced that context.”
Have you ever watched an addict ruin their lives and the lives of everyone around them? Cause that is what is happening.
Right now America is in the middle of its decline and its only starting to look ugly, and nothing feels good anymore. Soon will come some harsh realizations, and then after than will come a brutal denial phase where the abusive addict lashes out at everyone.
Eventually there is the crashout and burnout phase where everything becomes too much to bare and rock bottom has been reached. This is the true fork in the road for the addict.
We are all on a list. Red flagged for life
Reddit sold out to train AI. They already have your comments.
You were required to submit biometric analysis for that smart ID and passport. They have facial recognition on everyone.
When they come, they know who we are
Paywall skip – https://archive.is/MBhfZ
we get to the bottom of the spire.
> If I were to have that Clubhouse conversation again, I think I’d start it differently. Rather than walking in and offering a polite challenge to debate. I’d start with an apology.
> I’m sorry that we turned against our own friends and neighbors and allowed political animosity to corrupt our hearts. I’m sorry that you grew up awash in images and rhetoric that we couldn’t handle ourselves. I’m sorry that you were told that the fate of the nation — even of Christianity itself — hangs in the balance every single election.
> I know the group I was talking to would find this cringe, but I’ll say it anyway: What I am sorriest about is that we taught you to despair.
While it’s better to see this level of self-reflection than not, it’s closing the barn door after the cow is not just out but over in the next county.
We die.
tepid moderate dems, which is pretty much the only controlled/performative opposition to the fascist takeover is only hastening the collapse. it is hopeless. move out like I did 2 years ago to Scandanevia before it is too late. your country is lost.
…is an apt description of the last 8 years of NYT sanewashing
WTF? I thought he was going to acknowledge how fucked up Trump and MAGA is. Instead he says “I’m sorry we let you kids get upset.”
Fuck off, Times. You are an enabler.
Propagandist terrified of delusional idiots he helped create
NYT has enabled the US death spiral, they can take their paywall and go fuck themselves.
As long as it’s NIMBY and the next county/state over – most Americans aren’t collectively conscientious enough to make any discernible “change” that would move the needle towards a new and revelatory direction. Americans have been conditioned for generations to keep their heads down and forge on.
I think the only way things will change is if amendments to the constitution are made, laws governing presidential actions and fundamental reordering of economic and social priorities. Other than this, it’ll continue being like shooting fish in barrel until the very last one.
Refuse to recognize we lost? that;s basically saying, ‘I know reality has an annoying habit of existing, but I’m just gonna ignore that part’ Modern politics now with upgraded denials settings!
You enabled it, NYT
Same thing when you refuse to recognize science and evidence.
Fuck the NYT. They (along with many others) helped enable this shit.
They can take the article or op-ed or whatever (I haven’t clicked the link) and shove it up their collective assholes.
I was a loyal time subscriber for years. Fuck these fuckers and what they did to enable this to happen.
You die. Pretty simple
This is over a decade too late, and features a level of nuance that you’d expect from a high school sophomore. And extra cringe too.
The argument is that American politics is rife with unnecessary anxiety and hyperbole, and this is causing irreparable division between each of us as political actors. And that this is being fueled by social media and easy access to it via smartphones, and that it’s nearly impossible to stop because it’s coming from irrationality and won’t listen to facts and figures
We’ve known this. Well, anyone with half a brain has known this. For a while.
French should focus less on how he comes off in some chat room and the imaginary benefits of his imaginary apology. It’s not worth the bread of a NYT opinion piece, and the “everyone is too scared/partisan and social media/tech/smartphones are to blame” argument is not worth its meat.
It’s disappointing work
I think the average New York Times reader gets this, it’s the 30% or so that still support Trump that don’t get it, and they’ll weigh down the lifeboats when the ship sinks.
I’ve been saying since Trump’s incoherent, rambling prattle back in 2016, that the US is suffering from a situation very much like when a prominent family is hit with a serious mental illness by one of its members. My opinion hasn’t changed. The particular example was so jaw-dropping, I mocked up a bronze plaque of his words and suggested that a copy be displayed at each State Capitol. My opinion hadn’t changed on that either.
I just wish I could work out what Putin’s end game will be. It’s clear he wants to restore the former ‘glories’ of the USSR but what after that? How do China and North Korea fit in?
Unfortunately the US is a vassal state now, its only role is enabler and muscle for Russia.
Just wait until the world drops the dollar as the reserve currency and our adversary start flooding the debt markets with all of our debt. That will be fun.
We die.
Empires never acknowledge their downfall until it’s over
Combine that with the “american nationalism” and abolishing of educational standards, america is going to be like north korea, 50 years behind the rest of the world but still claiming to be the greatest and best at everything, and just banning any media sources that show otherwise