BTW, I hope you get primaried Jeffries. Obsequious moderate with no spine who has folded on every issue this year. I know Dems have no ability to really make changes right now, but at least pretend to be resistance.
YokedMF on
If the DOJ won’t reveal the abusers, and the politicians won’t reveal the abusers, and the survivors won’t reveal the abusers? Who will reveal the abusers then?
TildenOak on
In the meantime, it may be worth considering impeachment proceedings. Requiring Republican House members to formally support the president could be a powerful strategic move, particularly given the historically weak position Trump and the GOP currently occupy.
jstank2 on
Will we also send a strongly worded letter?
Beneficial-Long-7033 on
The Dems need to win the midterms. They just need to. This whole year, the House and Senate has been completely subservient to Trump. The OBBB? Passed. Vote on Obamacare subsidies? Prevented by Mike Johnson? Everything Trump wants to have passed? Both the House and Senate roll over and pass everything.
If Dems take control of the House or Senate in the midterms, that could very well lead to Trump being a little further restricted in the things he can do. Maybe. Hopefully. Probably not, because he’ll just take executive action and no one will notice that he is overextending his presidential authority.
Goodness, America is fucked.
Healthy_Journey650 on
Is this really ALL WE CAN DO? “Calling for” doesn’t actually accomplish anything
MajesticsEleven on
Also Jeffries next week: “We must have calm and civil discourse, a return to decorum! Demanding the unredacted Epstein files is just a distraction from real work we need to do!”
Game_Of_Runs on
When republicans do terrible shit Republican voters do not care and democratic voters get more mad at their own party leaders than at the republicans doing the bad thing.
Stereo_Jungle_Child on
Another strongly-worded letter should take care of the problem. That usually works, right?
almighty_smiley on
Dude, you’ve had all the resistance of al dente spaghetti this entire year. Shut the fuck up until you’re actually doing something.
Tangled349 on
The Democratic party is effectively dead. That’s just the truth. When can we get a new party that matches the energy of people like AOC? I’d like to invest in that.
Rod_Stewart on
Investigate what? We know what the facts are. The DOJ is making a mockery of the law. Pam needs to be impeached, Jeffries, The Great Capitulator, needs to face a primary.
BreatheCrete on
Can we stop waiting for the government to do something and take matters into our own hands finally please?
dbag3o1 on
Trumps world will crumble right after the democrats win back the House.
Commercial-Report303 on
Then proceeds to vote against it bc all he does is grandstand.
Flat-Emergency4891 on
The admin knows that Congress has no teeth. They can delay all they want. But it’s also my understanding that they can enforce the law starting with the Capital Police. Why haven’t they made any arrests related to the obstruction? No teeth.
robocox87 on
A few years ago, I had such high hopes for Jefferies. I thought he was the future of the party. It’s incredible and completely disheartening how quickly he went from outspoken, fiery moderate to rank and file establishment Dem/diet Republican.
Fantastic_Shaman9230 on
Jeffries is a wet turd, get some new leadership democrats…
LifeJustRight on
Do nothing dems suck balls
Ok-Mycologist-3829 on
Let me guess, at a time and manner of their choosing 🙄
floriansalah on
How about he starts with an article of impeachment for bondi ?
notahopeleft on
Yayy!!! Full and complete investigation is exactly what has been missing so far! So glad someone thought of that.
Odd_Reputation_4000 on
By who? The people who redacted and hid everything in the first place?
dkepp87 on
“If you dont release the full files….well..then you can’t come to my birthday party!” – Jeffries playing hardball
LKS1772 on
Unfortunately the real version will never see light of day
bourj on
Good, that’s much better than a partial and incomplete investigation. Those rarely help!
GreatGojira on
A “full and complete” investigation gives them time time to bury even more evidence.
Nizick on
How’s that vote on healthcare? Oh wait… *shocked pikachu face*
Titan3692 on
And I want a yacht. Good luck
Away-Combination-162 on
If the before and after pics are real it’s clearly tampering with evidence
dpdxguy on
>Jeffries calls for ‘full and complete investigation’
By whom? The FBI and other federal investigative services are complicit in this crime.
phunphan on
Didn’t we already do this? They passed a law that said the only things that could be redacted would be personal info.
ThirdSunRising on
Investigation!?
Try holding people in contempt. Wtf is there to investigate? The law says the files get released, they refused, prosecute.as in, people start going to jail for obstruction. Like, now. The evidence is out in the open. File charges. Immediately.
This shit is exactly why nobody trusts the democrats. They have a very simple job to do and they’re refusing to do it.
e_t_ on
Isn’t the point of an investigation to discover new knowledge? There is none to be had. The DOJ had (and has) the documents. Congress passed a law requiring the documents be released by Friday. They were not. Investigation is unnecessary; the only remaining step is *punishment* (or lack thereof).
gonadi on
Oh ffs. Impeach, remove, arrest, trial, sentencing, punishment to the full extent of the law. No pardons. Anything else makes all these lawmakers on all sides complicit to treason. Nothing less. I’m mad as hell, and I’m not gonn take it anymore.
fultonchain on
Maybe he can get Schumer to sign off on a joint strongly worded letter.
Trueslyforaniceguy on
Fucking done with everyone calling for things.
Do or do not, there is no fucking call.
Creepy_Technician_34 on
In the meantime, Jeffries will also accept a promise to vote on this matter in the future.
helmutye on
You don’t need to investigate. They blatantly broke the law you just passed by near unanimous consent. They need to be impeached and imprisoned as per the explicit text of the law.
An investigation is fine…*after* immediate consequences for those who just publicly broke the law. Otherwise, delaying action pending another investigation is full on collaboration with the pedofash Trump admin.
Dems just keep telling people to standing in a succession of lines with the assurance that, after you get to the front of *this one last* line, you’ll get what you want. And then when you do, they just tell you that now you can go stand in this *other* line. And so on.
And that’s all this is — there was a vote following all the proper procedures and it passed….yet we’re still “investigating”. The people in power want us to think there is some legitimate process going on here because it we believe that we’re waiting for redress of grievances in the future we’ll keep working and spending and being nice and obedient *now*. But there *isn’t* any process here — they’re just ignoring this.
What this means is that people need to get a lot less reasonable and start taking the law a lot less seriously. If it doesn’t matter when Trump breaks the law, it doesn’t matter what anyone else breaks it, either. The people of the US are no more beholden to the law than the President. If Congress is fine with Trump ignoring their laws, then they have no basis for caring when anyone else does, either.
So don’t limit your resistance efforts out of concern for the law or doing things legally. Treat the law the same way Trump does: meaningless unless it helps you.
Ideally, we would *all* follow the law and all be better off for it. But you can’t maintain respect for the rule of law unilaterally. If you follow the law while your opposition ignores it with impunity, that is just as if not more corrosive to rule of law than if you respond in kind.
Manmetbaard on
Did he write a strong worded letter?
jspurlin03 on
Hundreds of pages completely redacted is not a ‘full release’ of the files. Neither are files that were removed after being ‘released’.
proto_ant on
Just get them to pinky promise an investigation like the health care subsidy vote that was supposed to happen this month. Surely that will work
gnatdump6 on
Someone, an American hero, needs to release the originals already!!!
TomSelleckPI on
“Jeffries says some words… DNC Leadership Checkbox has been checked.”
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Just wait until we retake the House.
It won’t be long now.
BTW, I hope you get primaried Jeffries. Obsequious moderate with no spine who has folded on every issue this year. I know Dems have no ability to really make changes right now, but at least pretend to be resistance.
If the DOJ won’t reveal the abusers, and the politicians won’t reveal the abusers, and the survivors won’t reveal the abusers? Who will reveal the abusers then?
In the meantime, it may be worth considering impeachment proceedings. Requiring Republican House members to formally support the president could be a powerful strategic move, particularly given the historically weak position Trump and the GOP currently occupy.
Will we also send a strongly worded letter?
The Dems need to win the midterms. They just need to. This whole year, the House and Senate has been completely subservient to Trump. The OBBB? Passed. Vote on Obamacare subsidies? Prevented by Mike Johnson? Everything Trump wants to have passed? Both the House and Senate roll over and pass everything.
If Dems take control of the House or Senate in the midterms, that could very well lead to Trump being a little further restricted in the things he can do. Maybe. Hopefully. Probably not, because he’ll just take executive action and no one will notice that he is overextending his presidential authority.
Goodness, America is fucked.
Is this really ALL WE CAN DO? “Calling for” doesn’t actually accomplish anything
Also Jeffries next week: “We must have calm and civil discourse, a return to decorum! Demanding the unredacted Epstein files is just a distraction from real work we need to do!”
When republicans do terrible shit Republican voters do not care and democratic voters get more mad at their own party leaders than at the republicans doing the bad thing.
Another strongly-worded letter should take care of the problem. That usually works, right?
Dude, you’ve had all the resistance of al dente spaghetti this entire year. Shut the fuck up until you’re actually doing something.
The Democratic party is effectively dead. That’s just the truth. When can we get a new party that matches the energy of people like AOC? I’d like to invest in that.
Investigate what? We know what the facts are. The DOJ is making a mockery of the law. Pam needs to be impeached, Jeffries, The Great Capitulator, needs to face a primary.
Can we stop waiting for the government to do something and take matters into our own hands finally please?
Trumps world will crumble right after the democrats win back the House.
Then proceeds to vote against it bc all he does is grandstand.
The admin knows that Congress has no teeth. They can delay all they want. But it’s also my understanding that they can enforce the law starting with the Capital Police. Why haven’t they made any arrests related to the obstruction? No teeth.
A few years ago, I had such high hopes for Jefferies. I thought he was the future of the party. It’s incredible and completely disheartening how quickly he went from outspoken, fiery moderate to rank and file establishment Dem/diet Republican.
Jeffries is a wet turd, get some new leadership democrats…
Do nothing dems suck balls
Let me guess, at a time and manner of their choosing 🙄
How about he starts with an article of impeachment for bondi ?
Yayy!!! Full and complete investigation is exactly what has been missing so far! So glad someone thought of that.
By who? The people who redacted and hid everything in the first place?
“If you dont release the full files….well..then you can’t come to my birthday party!” – Jeffries playing hardball
Unfortunately the real version will never see light of day
Good, that’s much better than a partial and incomplete investigation. Those rarely help!
A “full and complete” investigation gives them time time to bury even more evidence.
How’s that vote on healthcare? Oh wait… *shocked pikachu face*
And I want a yacht. Good luck
If the before and after pics are real it’s clearly tampering with evidence
>Jeffries calls for ‘full and complete investigation’
By whom? The FBI and other federal investigative services are complicit in this crime.
Didn’t we already do this? They passed a law that said the only things that could be redacted would be personal info.
Investigation!?
Try holding people in contempt. Wtf is there to investigate? The law says the files get released, they refused, prosecute.as in, people start going to jail for obstruction. Like, now. The evidence is out in the open. File charges. Immediately.
This shit is exactly why nobody trusts the democrats. They have a very simple job to do and they’re refusing to do it.
Isn’t the point of an investigation to discover new knowledge? There is none to be had. The DOJ had (and has) the documents. Congress passed a law requiring the documents be released by Friday. They were not. Investigation is unnecessary; the only remaining step is *punishment* (or lack thereof).
Oh ffs. Impeach, remove, arrest, trial, sentencing, punishment to the full extent of the law. No pardons. Anything else makes all these lawmakers on all sides complicit to treason. Nothing less. I’m mad as hell, and I’m not gonn take it anymore.
Maybe he can get Schumer to sign off on a joint strongly worded letter.
Fucking done with everyone calling for things.
Do or do not, there is no fucking call.
In the meantime, Jeffries will also accept a promise to vote on this matter in the future.
You don’t need to investigate. They blatantly broke the law you just passed by near unanimous consent. They need to be impeached and imprisoned as per the explicit text of the law.
An investigation is fine…*after* immediate consequences for those who just publicly broke the law. Otherwise, delaying action pending another investigation is full on collaboration with the pedofash Trump admin.
Dems just keep telling people to standing in a succession of lines with the assurance that, after you get to the front of *this one last* line, you’ll get what you want. And then when you do, they just tell you that now you can go stand in this *other* line. And so on.
And that’s all this is — there was a vote following all the proper procedures and it passed….yet we’re still “investigating”. The people in power want us to think there is some legitimate process going on here because it we believe that we’re waiting for redress of grievances in the future we’ll keep working and spending and being nice and obedient *now*. But there *isn’t* any process here — they’re just ignoring this.
What this means is that people need to get a lot less reasonable and start taking the law a lot less seriously. If it doesn’t matter when Trump breaks the law, it doesn’t matter what anyone else breaks it, either. The people of the US are no more beholden to the law than the President. If Congress is fine with Trump ignoring their laws, then they have no basis for caring when anyone else does, either.
So don’t limit your resistance efforts out of concern for the law or doing things legally. Treat the law the same way Trump does: meaningless unless it helps you.
Ideally, we would *all* follow the law and all be better off for it. But you can’t maintain respect for the rule of law unilaterally. If you follow the law while your opposition ignores it with impunity, that is just as if not more corrosive to rule of law than if you respond in kind.
Did he write a strong worded letter?
Hundreds of pages completely redacted is not a ‘full release’ of the files. Neither are files that were removed after being ‘released’.
Just get them to pinky promise an investigation like the health care subsidy vote that was supposed to happen this month. Surely that will work
Someone, an American hero, needs to release the originals already!!!
“Jeffries says some words… DNC Leadership Checkbox has been checked.”