House Democrats Squander the Opportunity of Trumpian Corruption | Democrats have a golden opportunity to be the anti-corruption party, but the House caucus is not seizing it.
House Democrats Squander the Opportunity of Trumpian Corruption | Democrats have a golden opportunity to be the anti-corruption party, but the House caucus is not seizing it.
Why do we expect a corrupt house caucus to suddenly be a not corrupt house caucus? What am I missing here?
mightyboink on
Because a majority of Democrats are just as corrupt.
*Edit: to be clear, Republicans are wayyy more corrupt and just disgusting all around, but to pretend that a lot of the Democrats don’t do their rich donors bidding is just naive.
dmp2you on
Is anybody really surprised ? How many issues has the republicans handed to then ,on a silver platter , and we get nothing but 5 -6 of them to capitalize on it . Less than 10 out of 250. Pathetic cowards, and I blame the leadership. Jefferies said, we don’t swing at every pitch.
flodur1966 on
For every 10 million spend to make things worse given to the Republicans the rich spend 1 million to the democrats to not fix anything
Keptlosingmylogins on
Beholding to the same devil
tunaeP_tsuJ on
Why would they do anything about corruption? You think these MFS don’t play tiddlywinks under the table during contentious meetings?
wasted-degrees on
Democrats seem less comfortable with bald faced lies, so they’re rejecting the opportunity to be the anti-corruption party because the ones who are corrupt want to continue being corrupt.
The Republicans have no such discomfort with bald faced lies, as evidenced by such commonly parroted slogans as “support the troops,” “defend the sanctity of marriage,” “defend the Constitution,””small government,”and “release the Epstein files,” that couldn’t be further from their actual positions.
Patsanon1212 on
I feel like this criticism ignores that Democrats have been putting Trump’s corruption on blast for nearly a decade and it generally hasn’t accomplished anything with the electorate. We’ve done the emoluments clause, Russia, the Ukraine call, Trump being a threat to democracy, Trump coin, Trump using his own properties to enrich himself and to solicit backdoor money, the Qatar plane.
Should they keep blasting Trump on corruption? Sure. But this author has rose colored glasses on if they think that there was a ball to drop here. Trump’s corruption is fully priced into American politics at this point (and has been for literally years).
Stereo_Jungle_Child on
>Democrats have a golden opportunity to be the anti-corruption party
LOL! The Democrats? Anti-corruption? Have you MET the Democratic party? 4 out of the last 10 Democratic governors of Illinois have gone to prison for corruption. Look at the constant stream of corruption from Democrats in NY.
Political corruption is THE original “both sides” issue. The Democrats AND the Republicans are both constantly being caught with their hand in the cookie jar, probably because “getting into a position to be able to get your hand in the cookie jar” is why most of the people in politics ran for office in the first place.
Shameless_Tendies on
That’s because they aren’t the anti-corruption party. Some of them are, but the Corpo Dems definitely are not.
ShepardCommander01 on
Controlled opposition
Libinky on
Afraid some party members will be found to be corrupt. Oh my!
PelleKavaj on
This narrative of democrats as the ones not doing the right thing needs to stop.
J-the-Kidder on
They squander it because the morons in charge have zero idea on how to effectively communicate it. Instead of actually focusing on it, they let the narrative change with every passing day based on the new trigger item. So instead of pounding him on corruption, they get upset about a comment on shit hole countries or something else and corruption isn’t pounded into the narrative.
Plus, who the fuck can listen to some of these dinosaurs or incompetent shitheads talk for more than 8 seconds? Listening to Jeffries is especially painful.
grungegoth on
Not sure if it will sell well to the electorate. Right now, the electorate is most concerned with the cost of living and health care, they really don’t care about corruption because they can’t see the impact directly.
That said, if they can win on the economic front, then by all means go after the crooks. Bring it.
2-wheels on
What has Jeffries seized? He’s so damn lame he has become a Trump asset.
Finally do something, Mr. Minority Leader, or get out of the way.
LatterTarget7 on
Cause people don’t care. Dems have spent a decade screaming about trumps corruption and people still elected him twice
DaraParsavand on
I liked the article, but didn’t like this at all:
“Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA) studiously ignores Cuellar’s awful record, but was outraged when the progressive Chuy García seemed to time his retirement so as to hand the seat to his chosen successor—a somewhat tawdry practice, of course, but not at all uncommon and not remotely close to what Cuellar is accused of doing.”
What Garcia did is very problematic regardless of whether it breaks an ethics rule or not. I was completely disgusted when I heard and have no doubt the optics of his move is hurting us. That’s the last kind of progressive we need at this point.
prodigalpariah on
Because they want to take advantage of the limitless grifting and dark money once they regain any sort of power.
SBishop2014 on
House Democrats *love* the corruption, they just want it to be out of sight, out of mind again.
omniuni on
The Democrats do not have the House or Senate.
Democrats have been warning the people about this for years. The problem is that they can’t force anything to happen because they’re not a majority.
Bills keep being brought up that hurt people directly. It costs Democrats every bit of influence they have just to keep people from being completely instantly screwed.
People are complaining that the Democrats aren’t doing enough, as if they *could* do more. Every move they make has to balance fighting the Republicans with, literally, the livelihood of their constituents.
Attacking the minority party by saying they aren’t doing enough when the majority party is a destructive cult only plays directly into the hands of the corrupt majority. This is what the Republicans want. They will leverage their majority and then blame the minority for failing to do the very thing they just suppressed.
Stop blaming the Democrats. Focus your anger at the cheaters and pedophiles. When the Democrats have a majority again and have some time to actually make policies, *then* judge them.
powderedmilf on
With a leader like Jeffries it’s no surprise
faxdontlie on
Donald Trump is a pedophile.
joe_dirty365 on
Here we go with these kinds of articles…
exlongh0rn on
Well the dems aren’t immune to corruption either. There is no rational explanation for why they caved on the government shutdown when everyone knew the concept of a later vote on healthcare was laughable.
phantom_metallic on
The more shit storms trump causes, the more the Politics sub ratchets up the anti-democratic bs.
Rinse and repeat.
whofusesthemusic on
Why would they cut off a source of self-enrichment that they clearly use?
timcuculic on
You’re so close to getting it.
thatsjor on
People forget that tons of them are incriminated by the Epstein files too.
The democratic party is not the ally of the left, like some believe.
Kjellvb1979 on
Hmm… I wonder why?
Even though they aren’t as villainous and evil as the GOP, they still are funded by the same oligarchy and bribery system that is or campaign financing and lobbying.
Until we stop with the legalized bribery our representatives will continue to serve only those who fund them with large donations. The slow peeling away of regulations that protected against the wealthy influencing politics is what brought us a guy like Trump as President, a democratic party that is weak and ineffective, and pretty much all the other shit the public supports in large numbers but is ignored by our supposed representatives. Studies support this too…
Back in 2014 the data showed such, it’s only gotten worse since then.
I want a candidate that calls this out, refuses large donations, and is focused on limiting money in politics, as well as, raising up the middle, working, and lower classes instead of bending over backwards to help the corporations and their wealthy owners.
Right now American government is pay to play and only represents the top 10% of wealthy folk in any meaningful way.
Jorgen_Pakieto on
Imagine how fast the minority leaders would act if they weren’t first chasing legal bribery from higher donors.
Soulprism on
When greed is your countries overall defining moral trait, corruption it’s just a natural extension not some abhorration.
chivopi on
Because… they’re *also* corrupt?
HistoriaProctor on
Because if you take corruption to it’s logical conclusion you end up at Citizens United which is unacceptable since they rely so heavily on corporate funds rather than genuine charisma, political policies and legislative wins for their constituents.
wabiguan on
thats because establishment dems are controlled opposition who are paid by the same people who pay conservatives.
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Why do we expect a corrupt house caucus to suddenly be a not corrupt house caucus? What am I missing here?
Because a majority of Democrats are just as corrupt.
*Edit: to be clear, Republicans are wayyy more corrupt and just disgusting all around, but to pretend that a lot of the Democrats don’t do their rich donors bidding is just naive.
Is anybody really surprised ? How many issues has the republicans handed to then ,on a silver platter , and we get nothing but 5 -6 of them to capitalize on it . Less than 10 out of 250. Pathetic cowards, and I blame the leadership. Jefferies said, we don’t swing at every pitch.
For every 10 million spend to make things worse given to the Republicans the rich spend 1 million to the democrats to not fix anything
Beholding to the same devil
Why would they do anything about corruption? You think these MFS don’t play tiddlywinks under the table during contentious meetings?
Democrats seem less comfortable with bald faced lies, so they’re rejecting the opportunity to be the anti-corruption party because the ones who are corrupt want to continue being corrupt.
The Republicans have no such discomfort with bald faced lies, as evidenced by such commonly parroted slogans as “support the troops,” “defend the sanctity of marriage,” “defend the Constitution,””small government,”and “release the Epstein files,” that couldn’t be further from their actual positions.
I feel like this criticism ignores that Democrats have been putting Trump’s corruption on blast for nearly a decade and it generally hasn’t accomplished anything with the electorate. We’ve done the emoluments clause, Russia, the Ukraine call, Trump being a threat to democracy, Trump coin, Trump using his own properties to enrich himself and to solicit backdoor money, the Qatar plane.
Should they keep blasting Trump on corruption? Sure. But this author has rose colored glasses on if they think that there was a ball to drop here. Trump’s corruption is fully priced into American politics at this point (and has been for literally years).
>Democrats have a golden opportunity to be the anti-corruption party
LOL! The Democrats? Anti-corruption? Have you MET the Democratic party? 4 out of the last 10 Democratic governors of Illinois have gone to prison for corruption. Look at the constant stream of corruption from Democrats in NY.
Political corruption is THE original “both sides” issue. The Democrats AND the Republicans are both constantly being caught with their hand in the cookie jar, probably because “getting into a position to be able to get your hand in the cookie jar” is why most of the people in politics ran for office in the first place.
That’s because they aren’t the anti-corruption party. Some of them are, but the Corpo Dems definitely are not.
Controlled opposition
Afraid some party members will be found to be corrupt. Oh my!
This narrative of democrats as the ones not doing the right thing needs to stop.
They squander it because the morons in charge have zero idea on how to effectively communicate it. Instead of actually focusing on it, they let the narrative change with every passing day based on the new trigger item. So instead of pounding him on corruption, they get upset about a comment on shit hole countries or something else and corruption isn’t pounded into the narrative.
Plus, who the fuck can listen to some of these dinosaurs or incompetent shitheads talk for more than 8 seconds? Listening to Jeffries is especially painful.
Not sure if it will sell well to the electorate. Right now, the electorate is most concerned with the cost of living and health care, they really don’t care about corruption because they can’t see the impact directly.
That said, if they can win on the economic front, then by all means go after the crooks. Bring it.
What has Jeffries seized? He’s so damn lame he has become a Trump asset.
Finally do something, Mr. Minority Leader, or get out of the way.
Cause people don’t care. Dems have spent a decade screaming about trumps corruption and people still elected him twice
I liked the article, but didn’t like this at all:
“Rep. Marie Gluesenkamp Perez (D-WA) studiously ignores Cuellar’s awful record, but was outraged when the progressive Chuy García seemed to time his retirement so as to hand the seat to his chosen successor—a somewhat tawdry practice, of course, but not at all uncommon and not remotely close to what Cuellar is accused of doing.”
What Garcia did is very problematic regardless of whether it breaks an ethics rule or not. I was completely disgusted when I heard and have no doubt the optics of his move is hurting us. That’s the last kind of progressive we need at this point.
Because they want to take advantage of the limitless grifting and dark money once they regain any sort of power.
House Democrats *love* the corruption, they just want it to be out of sight, out of mind again.
The Democrats do not have the House or Senate.
Democrats have been warning the people about this for years. The problem is that they can’t force anything to happen because they’re not a majority.
Bills keep being brought up that hurt people directly. It costs Democrats every bit of influence they have just to keep people from being completely instantly screwed.
People are complaining that the Democrats aren’t doing enough, as if they *could* do more. Every move they make has to balance fighting the Republicans with, literally, the livelihood of their constituents.
Attacking the minority party by saying they aren’t doing enough when the majority party is a destructive cult only plays directly into the hands of the corrupt majority. This is what the Republicans want. They will leverage their majority and then blame the minority for failing to do the very thing they just suppressed.
Stop blaming the Democrats. Focus your anger at the cheaters and pedophiles. When the Democrats have a majority again and have some time to actually make policies, *then* judge them.
With a leader like Jeffries it’s no surprise
Donald Trump is a pedophile.
Here we go with these kinds of articles…
Well the dems aren’t immune to corruption either. There is no rational explanation for why they caved on the government shutdown when everyone knew the concept of a later vote on healthcare was laughable.
The more shit storms trump causes, the more the Politics sub ratchets up the anti-democratic bs.
Rinse and repeat.
Why would they cut off a source of self-enrichment that they clearly use?
You’re so close to getting it.
People forget that tons of them are incriminated by the Epstein files too.
The democratic party is not the ally of the left, like some believe.
Hmm… I wonder why?
Even though they aren’t as villainous and evil as the GOP, they still are funded by the same oligarchy and bribery system that is or campaign financing and lobbying.
Until we stop with the legalized bribery our representatives will continue to serve only those who fund them with large donations. The slow peeling away of regulations that protected against the wealthy influencing politics is what brought us a guy like Trump as President, a democratic party that is weak and ineffective, and pretty much all the other shit the public supports in large numbers but is ignored by our supposed representatives. Studies support this too…
https://www.vox.com/2014/4/18/5624310/martin-gilens-testing-theories-of-american-politics-explained
Back in 2014 the data showed such, it’s only gotten worse since then.
I want a candidate that calls this out, refuses large donations, and is focused on limiting money in politics, as well as, raising up the middle, working, and lower classes instead of bending over backwards to help the corporations and their wealthy owners.
Right now American government is pay to play and only represents the top 10% of wealthy folk in any meaningful way.
Imagine how fast the minority leaders would act if they weren’t first chasing legal bribery from higher donors.
When greed is your countries overall defining moral trait, corruption it’s just a natural extension not some abhorration.
Because… they’re *also* corrupt?
Because if you take corruption to it’s logical conclusion you end up at Citizens United which is unacceptable since they rely so heavily on corporate funds rather than genuine charisma, political policies and legislative wins for their constituents.
thats because establishment dems are controlled opposition who are paid by the same people who pay conservatives.