I just want to know one thing: how many millions of dollars have they spent of the taxpayers’ money to try to ~~ingratiate~~ their thirst for revenge on him?! Ffs. ONE PERSON.
hamsterveil69 on
Trump is a bad man and hes going to be impeached, mark my words
BJP-AI on
They literally fabricated evidence to imply he had gang affiliations. Absolutely slanderous disgrace. The entire government chain through DHS that is involved in this should be sent to El Salvador since thats apparently our new Siberia. Be sure to send Noems hair back to a decent taxpaying cancer patient.
Succubus-Love on
It’s pretty obvious to everyone the guy is being targeted, repeatedly. Kinda speaks for itself.
HDRsoul on
From the No Fucking Shit department…
B-Z_B-S on
Yes. Kilmar Abrego Garcia is being vindictively prosecuted. It’s very obvious.
the_1_they_call_zero on
He’s basically a symbol of their failed attempt to make him an example of a “bad” person who should be deported.
KrookedDoesStuff on
This dude has not only been vindictively prosecuted, but it’s been so grossly obvious that he should be able to sue for the rest of his life in the USA to be paid for by the Trump family.
RunDNA on
All the controversial statements that Trump and his sycophants make in public bite them in the ass at hearings like this. The government lawyers will deny what the tweets and Fox News interviews will prove.
Bluestripedshirt on
Dude should just pretend to be a pedo and the orange menace will invite him over for a Big Mac.
Choice-of-SteinsGate on
This whole fiasco was vindictive from the start. Not to mention a political deception to divert attention away from the flagrant unconstitutionality of it all.
Republicans carried out a painstaking, joint effort to distract Americans from the Trump administration’s unlawful actions on immigration by pushing messaging that tried to discredit Garcia in the public eye.
The GOP chose to demonize Garcia and make him out to be a criminal whose rights did not deserve protecting so they could drive the focus away from Trump’s unconstitutional actions.
But they also managed to drive attention away from the fact that scores of harmless or innocent people have also been arrested, detained or deported without due process, and many with no criminal records for that matter.
Trump’s immigration agents have been targeting legal residents, visa holders and applicants, asylum seekers, foreign students, green card carriers, protestors, children, taxpayers, veterans, and even US citizens.
This even includes migrants waiting in line for their citizenship that they’ve been working towards for decades.
ICE have also been waiting outside of courtrooms to arrest migrants showing up to their hearings, and the government has also been revoking the legal statuses of migrants who have gone through the proper citizenship channels.
The Trump admin was on the losing side of this battle every step of the way. They ignored multiple court orders, they threatened and arrested judges, and they flouted the law repeatedly. *This* was always the real issue.
The courts ruled that Garcia was unlawfully deported and denied due process. Judges overseeing the case saw that the Trump admin was constantly violating the law. *This* is what deserved our attention.
After Garcia was returned, the DOJ sought to rectify its mistake by charging him with crimes that could get him deported.
The Trump admin wanted to do everything within its power to make certain that Garcia was convicted instead of admitting to its “administrative error.”
The decision to charge Garcia with human trafficking, rather than gang-related crimes, was clearly an attempt to retroactively justify his unlawful deportation.
**How It All Went Down:**
Kilmar Garcia was previously granted protection status under US immigration law by an immigration judge, which allowed Garcia to continue living in the US and obtain a work permit due to fears of persecution and a credible threat in El Salvador.
Although his “withholding of removal” is not the same as asylum, it often requires a greater burden of proof than asylum. This can make it a stronger argument against deportation, but it offers fewer benefits than asylum.
The courts ruled that the Trump admin ignored the withholding order and that Garcia was denied due process. The supreme Court attests to this.
> “The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador *was therefore illegal.*”
> “To this day, the Government *has cited no basis in law* for Abrego Garcia’s *warrantless arrest,* *his removal* to El Salvador, or *his confinement* in a Salvadoran prison. Nor could it.”
> “…the proper remedy is to provide Abrego Garcia *with all the process* to which he would have been entitled had he not been *unlawfully removed* to El Salvador. That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with *’due process of law,'”*
> “Moreover, it has been the Government’s own well-established policy to “facilitate [an] alien’s return to the United States if . . . the alien’s presence is necessary for continued administrative removal proceedings.”
Garcia’s case hadn’t gone through the proper proceedings, so if the Trump admin was really intent on invalidating Garcia’s withholding order, he had to be returned and afforded legal remedy on this matter.
But after Garcia was finally returned, he faced charges related to transporting undocumented migrants and not his alleged gang affiliations.
This effort from the Trump administration contradicts arguments that Garcia was already afforded due process back in 2019, and that he was somehow charged with being a gang member. There is no such charge and this is not the case.
– Garcia wasn’t charged with any gang related crimes.
– No concrete evidence was provided to support the allegation that he is a gang member.
– Garcia’s criminal record was clean.
There was no explicit evidence proving his MS-13 gang status outside of an “unnamed informant” claiming that Garcia was an active member of New York’s “Western Clique,” despite never living in New York. This allegation has been characterized as “double hearsay.”
> “The uncross-examined detective’s accusation came from an unidentified informant who was also, perforce, uncross-examined—a second layer of hearsay.”
Additionally, the officer that authored the informant’s claim was later fired for multiple incidents of misconduct, calling his credibility and the credibility of the accusations into question.
Also, the faulty Gangnet database used to flag Garcia as a gang member was disbanded. This system was never meant to be used as the basis for arrests or charges either.
However, the informant’s claim still led police to identify Garcia as a gang member based on him wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie, which did not hold evidentiary weight.
One Judge weighed in:
> “[Judge] Xinis noted that Abrego Garcia has no criminal convictions in the U.S. or El Salvador, and said the evidence meant to support allegations of gang affiliation ‘consisted of nothing more than his *Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie,* and a *vague, uncorroborated allegation* from a confidential informant claiming he belonged to MS-13’s Western clique in New York — *a place he has never lived.'”*
But the fact(s) of the matter is, Garcia was unlawfully arrested and deported by the government and he was not provided the due process that he would have otherwise been entitled to receive.
One Reagan appointed judge said:
> “The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and a member of MS-13. Perhaps, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is still entitled to due process. If the government is confident of its position, it should be assured that position will prevail in proceedings to terminate the withholding of removal order,” he wrote.
Garcia’s case wasn’t properly litigated, and after returning to the US, it was obvious that the Trump admin was determined to keep him in custody and charge him with crimes unrelated to the accusations that Republicans have consistently made against him.
It’s also important to note that this is not about defending the man himself, but defending the rights of all persons who have been illegally detained and/or deported by our current regime.
Republicans would have you believe the former, and no matter the outcome of Garcia’s situation, they will continue to accuse Trump critics of being “criminal” or “gang” sympathizers. But in reality, we just want the Trump administration to be held accountable for waging an unconstitutional war against the people.
TheGOPisTheDeepState on
Took a Democratic congressman to fly to El Salvador see if they were still alive. Trump and GOP, DOJ and ICE have been committing crimes and falsifying evidence. Those are the real criminals that need to go to El Salvador.
Leon_Howser on
What’s interesting is that the burden to establish the VP for a defendant is at times like holding on to a greased screwdriver while trying to learn how to ride a unicycle.. Since VP has happened to others Trump sees as liabilities the burden has been easier to overcome..
buried_lede on
The answer is yes
Zman---- on
All they have to do is deport him to Costa Rica and this whole thing is over.
mr_evilweed on
I mean… the administration straight up admitted thay they were vindictively prosecuting him…
I_love_Hobbes on
Trump saying that MS13 was tattooed on his hands and it’s not there should be all they need to show the judge.
Professional-Sea4649 on
If his case doesn’t meet the bar for vindictive prosecution, there is no bar.
Expert-Explorer8894 on
Is it possible this judge hasn’t been paying attention and piecing together the vindictive time line and outright proven lies by this criminal DOJ and ICE?
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I just want to know one thing: how many millions of dollars have they spent of the taxpayers’ money to try to ~~ingratiate~~ their thirst for revenge on him?! Ffs. ONE PERSON.
Trump is a bad man and hes going to be impeached, mark my words
They literally fabricated evidence to imply he had gang affiliations. Absolutely slanderous disgrace. The entire government chain through DHS that is involved in this should be sent to El Salvador since thats apparently our new Siberia. Be sure to send Noems hair back to a decent taxpaying cancer patient.
It’s pretty obvious to everyone the guy is being targeted, repeatedly. Kinda speaks for itself.
From the No Fucking Shit department…
Yes. Kilmar Abrego Garcia is being vindictively prosecuted. It’s very obvious.
He’s basically a symbol of their failed attempt to make him an example of a “bad” person who should be deported.
This dude has not only been vindictively prosecuted, but it’s been so grossly obvious that he should be able to sue for the rest of his life in the USA to be paid for by the Trump family.
All the controversial statements that Trump and his sycophants make in public bite them in the ass at hearings like this. The government lawyers will deny what the tweets and Fox News interviews will prove.
Dude should just pretend to be a pedo and the orange menace will invite him over for a Big Mac.
This whole fiasco was vindictive from the start. Not to mention a political deception to divert attention away from the flagrant unconstitutionality of it all.
Republicans carried out a painstaking, joint effort to distract Americans from the Trump administration’s unlawful actions on immigration by pushing messaging that tried to discredit Garcia in the public eye.
The GOP chose to demonize Garcia and make him out to be a criminal whose rights did not deserve protecting so they could drive the focus away from Trump’s unconstitutional actions.
But they also managed to drive attention away from the fact that scores of harmless or innocent people have also been arrested, detained or deported without due process, and many with no criminal records for that matter.
Trump’s immigration agents have been targeting legal residents, visa holders and applicants, asylum seekers, foreign students, green card carriers, protestors, children, taxpayers, veterans, and even US citizens.
This even includes migrants waiting in line for their citizenship that they’ve been working towards for decades.
ICE have also been waiting outside of courtrooms to arrest migrants showing up to their hearings, and the government has also been revoking the legal statuses of migrants who have gone through the proper citizenship channels.
The Trump admin was on the losing side of this battle every step of the way. They ignored multiple court orders, they threatened and arrested judges, and they flouted the law repeatedly. *This* was always the real issue.
The courts ruled that Garcia was unlawfully deported and denied due process. Judges overseeing the case saw that the Trump admin was constantly violating the law. *This* is what deserved our attention.
After Garcia was returned, the DOJ sought to rectify its mistake by charging him with crimes that could get him deported.
The Trump admin wanted to do everything within its power to make certain that Garcia was convicted instead of admitting to its “administrative error.”
The decision to charge Garcia with human trafficking, rather than gang-related crimes, was clearly an attempt to retroactively justify his unlawful deportation.
**How It All Went Down:**
Kilmar Garcia was previously granted protection status under US immigration law by an immigration judge, which allowed Garcia to continue living in the US and obtain a work permit due to fears of persecution and a credible threat in El Salvador.
Although his “withholding of removal” is not the same as asylum, it often requires a greater burden of proof than asylum. This can make it a stronger argument against deportation, but it offers fewer benefits than asylum.
The courts ruled that the Trump admin ignored the withholding order and that Garcia was denied due process. The supreme Court attests to this.
> “The United States acknowledges that Abrego Garcia was subject to a withholding order forbidding his removal to El Salvador, and that the removal to El Salvador *was therefore illegal.*”
> “To this day, the Government *has cited no basis in law* for Abrego Garcia’s *warrantless arrest,* *his removal* to El Salvador, or *his confinement* in a Salvadoran prison. Nor could it.”
> “…the proper remedy is to provide Abrego Garcia *with all the process* to which he would have been entitled had he not been *unlawfully removed* to El Salvador. That means the Government must comply with its obligation to provide Abrego Garcia with *’due process of law,'”*
> “Moreover, it has been the Government’s own well-established policy to “facilitate [an] alien’s return to the United States if . . . the alien’s presence is necessary for continued administrative removal proceedings.”
Garcia’s case hadn’t gone through the proper proceedings, so if the Trump admin was really intent on invalidating Garcia’s withholding order, he had to be returned and afforded legal remedy on this matter.
But after Garcia was finally returned, he faced charges related to transporting undocumented migrants and not his alleged gang affiliations.
This effort from the Trump administration contradicts arguments that Garcia was already afforded due process back in 2019, and that he was somehow charged with being a gang member. There is no such charge and this is not the case.
– Garcia wasn’t charged with any gang related crimes.
– No concrete evidence was provided to support the allegation that he is a gang member.
– Garcia’s criminal record was clean.
There was no explicit evidence proving his MS-13 gang status outside of an “unnamed informant” claiming that Garcia was an active member of New York’s “Western Clique,” despite never living in New York. This allegation has been characterized as “double hearsay.”
> “The uncross-examined detective’s accusation came from an unidentified informant who was also, perforce, uncross-examined—a second layer of hearsay.”
Additionally, the officer that authored the informant’s claim was later fired for multiple incidents of misconduct, calling his credibility and the credibility of the accusations into question.
Also, the faulty Gangnet database used to flag Garcia as a gang member was disbanded. This system was never meant to be used as the basis for arrests or charges either.
However, the informant’s claim still led police to identify Garcia as a gang member based on him wearing a Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie, which did not hold evidentiary weight.
One Judge weighed in:
> “[Judge] Xinis noted that Abrego Garcia has no criminal convictions in the U.S. or El Salvador, and said the evidence meant to support allegations of gang affiliation ‘consisted of nothing more than his *Chicago Bulls hat and hoodie,* and a *vague, uncorroborated allegation* from a confidential informant claiming he belonged to MS-13’s Western clique in New York — *a place he has never lived.'”*
But the fact(s) of the matter is, Garcia was unlawfully arrested and deported by the government and he was not provided the due process that he would have otherwise been entitled to receive.
One Reagan appointed judge said:
> “The government asserts that Abrego Garcia is a terrorist and a member of MS-13. Perhaps, but perhaps not. Regardless, he is still entitled to due process. If the government is confident of its position, it should be assured that position will prevail in proceedings to terminate the withholding of removal order,” he wrote.
Garcia’s case wasn’t properly litigated, and after returning to the US, it was obvious that the Trump admin was determined to keep him in custody and charge him with crimes unrelated to the accusations that Republicans have consistently made against him.
It’s also important to note that this is not about defending the man himself, but defending the rights of all persons who have been illegally detained and/or deported by our current regime.
Republicans would have you believe the former, and no matter the outcome of Garcia’s situation, they will continue to accuse Trump critics of being “criminal” or “gang” sympathizers. But in reality, we just want the Trump administration to be held accountable for waging an unconstitutional war against the people.
Took a Democratic congressman to fly to El Salvador see if they were still alive. Trump and GOP, DOJ and ICE have been committing crimes and falsifying evidence. Those are the real criminals that need to go to El Salvador.
What’s interesting is that the burden to establish the VP for a defendant is at times like holding on to a greased screwdriver while trying to learn how to ride a unicycle.. Since VP has happened to others Trump sees as liabilities the burden has been easier to overcome..
The answer is yes
All they have to do is deport him to Costa Rica and this whole thing is over.
I mean… the administration straight up admitted thay they were vindictively prosecuting him…
Trump saying that MS13 was tattooed on his hands and it’s not there should be all they need to show the judge.
If his case doesn’t meet the bar for vindictive prosecution, there is no bar.
Is it possible this judge hasn’t been paying attention and piecing together the vindictive time line and outright proven lies by this criminal DOJ and ICE?