And MAGA won’t care because this means more brown people will die.
surlysurfer on
Didn’t he warn Kamala would start WW3? Projection as always.
jimmygee2 on
So the US President is officially above the law and has total immunity … however foreign leaders must obey American laws. How the fuck did we end up here?
tesla377 on
I’m not saying there is not much that is questionable here. There is a lot. But the coup was not today. The coup was when the 2024 election was not honored and this man remained in power. That was a coup. By definition a coup. A dictator refused the election results and usurped power. I distinctly recall Biden condemning this behavior and I agree. You don’t get to disregard election results, stay in power, and call it a “coup” when you are removed.
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Alwaystired254 on
Well, the world won’t stand up to Trump, so doesn’t really matter
This was the plan along btw. Jeffrey Epstein participated in discussions about an invasion of Venezuela to steal the country’s oil. It is literally in the files.
Same story, different decade. Trump just makes it look more inelegant because he’s not clever.
charliej102 on
An attack on one sovereign nation is an attack on all sovereign nations.
reddittorbrigade on
SC Justices are equally evil as Donald Trump.
Without them our democracy would still be alive.
nhepner on
We still haven’t dealt with the coup in America.
Foreign_Addition2844 on
Today is deadline to release Epstien files unredacted
mocha-only on
I’ve had numerous Americans on here, from left to right, tell me (a Canadian) that I should chill with my anti-America rhetoric because everything is going to go back to normal.
Well, from where I’m looking, trump just invaded a sovereign country without congress so it could take its resources. I don’t think I’m being delirious when I say Canada is fuckin’ pissed off at you guys and fuckin’ SCARED.
cleverusername437 on
My terminology is rusty… is it called a coup when a felon/child molestor who destroyed his own economy, orders the military takeover of another country and steals their natural resources?
jjamesr539 on
Not a coup. An illegal abduction of a (admittedly absolute POS) foreign head of state. A coup is done by the citizens of that country, for better or worse, but from within. It seems like semantics, but it’s not. As illegitimate as a coup typically is (Since usually it’s not from bad to good or oppressed to free), it’s *still* legally more legitimate than just grabbing a head of state.
MatthewSWFL229 on
Let’s see if forcing regime changes has worked in the past:
Here is a list of significant U.S.-involved regime changes and their outcomes:
Cold War Era Interventions
Iran (1953): The CIA and British intelligence orchestrated a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, who had nationalized Iran’s oil industry.
Outcome: The pro-Western monarch, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (the Shah), was installed as a dictator. The deep-seated resentment from this event contributed significantly to the 1979 Islamic Revolution, which brought to power the anti-American clerical regime that rules Iran today.
Guatemala (1954): A U.S.-backed coup ousted the democratically elected President Jacobo Árbenz, whose land reforms affected U.S. corporate interests (United Fruit Company).
Outcome: The coup ushered in a series of brutal military regimes and a 36-year civil war, which killed an estimated 200,000 people and left lasting instability.
Cuba (1961): The U.S.-sponsored Bay of Pigs invasion by armed exiles attempted to overthrow Fidel Castro’s communist government.
Outcome: The invasion was a dramatic failure and a significant foreign policy embarrassment for the U.S.. It solidified Castro’s power and pushed Cuba further into an alliance with the Soviet Union, directly contributing to the Cuban Missile Crisis the following year. The U.S. still condemns the current Cuban regime for repression and economic dysfunction.
South Vietnam (1963): The U.S. supported a coup against its ally, President Ngo Dinh Diem, after he became unpopular due to his persecution of Buddhists and inability to win the war against the North.
Outcome: Diem’s assassination and the subsequent political instability paved the way for increased U.S. military involvement, escalating the Vietnam War, which resulted in millions of casualties and ultimately ended in a U.S. withdrawal and communist victory.
Chile (1973): The U.S. supported the military coup led by General Augusto Pinochet, which overthrew the democratically elected socialist President Salvador Allende.
Outcome: Pinochet established a brutal dictatorship that lasted until 1990, during which human rights were severely violated.
Post-Cold War Interventions
Panama (1989): The U.S. military invaded Panama to depose dictator Manuel Noriega.
Outcome: Noriega was captured and extradited to the U.S. to face drug trafficking charges. This case is often cited as a rare example of a successful transition to democracy by foreign-imposed regime change, which has been stable in the long term.
Haiti (1994): U.S. troops were sent to restore the constitutional government of elected President Jean-Bertrand Aristide after a military coup.
Outcome: The U.S. intervention did not lead to sustainable growth or stability, with minimal foreign investment in the years following the mission and subsequent political instability and another coup in 2004.
Afghanistan (2001): The U.S. invaded Afghanistan to dismantle Al-Qaeda and overthrow the Taliban regime that harbored them.
Outcome: An interim, U.S.-backed government was established, and the U.S. engaged in a two-decade nation-building project. Following the complete withdrawal of U.S. forces in August 2021, the Afghan government collapsed, and the Taliban quickly retook control of the country.
Iraq (2003): The U.S. led an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein’s government, based on the assertion that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction (which were never found).
Outcome: Saddam Hussein was overthrown, but the invasion triggered a prolonged insurgency, sectarian violence, and civil war, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths and regional destabilization. Iraq has remained unstable, and the invasion is widely considered a failure in achieving its envisioned goals.
Libya (2011): The U.S. participated in a NATO-led military intervention that resulted in the overthrow and death of Muammar Gaddafi.
Outcome: The intervention left the North African nation effectively lawless, plunging it into a protracted civil war and creating a power vacuum that allowed extremist groups to establish a presence.
Well maybe this will be the first …..
BabyHercules on
I think this is a little hyperbolic. I don’t support this but that headline is too much. This isn’t the first or last time we’ve done something like this
Aggressive-Cut5836 on
I think at least some of the shock globally isn’t that the US, under Trump, wouldn’t do this (a tiger doesn’t change its stripes so easily) but that it can still do this so easily. Surely we live in a more multipolar world today where countries like China and Russia, and the EU and others could exercise some type of influence to stop this. But no. The buildup and harassment of Venezuela has been underway for months without any very clear demands that Trump back down. We may think we may have turned a page from the neo-colonialism of the last half of the last century but it turns out nothing has really changed.
Spamgrenade on
All the progress the world had made since WWII has just been deleted by Trump.
WestVin on
It’s hilarious that people are concerned about justice outside the US while ignoring the numerous illegal activities from the current administration in our own country. How quickly many forget what happened on January 6, 2021.
CCSlater63 on
No it’s not! Trump is going to allow the people to select their own leader. Free from any outside interference. We should all be celebrating. All the money from their oil will be given back to the people! We have also put troops on the ground to protect civilians from any cartel retaliation there, since we know what happens in vacuums of power.
Once we’ve settled this we’re going to go to other nations whose people are being exploited by drug lords and dictators. Trump will free millions when we go to Africa to depose their dictators and build up their infrastructure too. This is all being done in the name of peace and freedom. Don’t forget.
And once the oil companies and natural recourse companies have help the other countries with their infrastructure they will come back to the US and help fix all the aging, crumbling infrastructure here. Help others before ourselves. True selflessness!
Far_Middle7341 on
r/Venezuela seems to be celebrating
Constant_Section1491 on
Well now you know why NK and few other countries have Nukes.
Funkytowel360 on
Trump is empowered by this attack. He will threaten peacefully country leaders for money or sign terrible trade deals. You wouldn’t want to be in prison like the leader of Venezuela right?
99aye-aye99 on
Trump is a liar. Exhibit #1145, he does not believe in meddling overseas.
_cryptomnesia_ on
Let’s see the unredacted Epstein files.
DeadicatedForLife on
This is just in bad faith. My brother and I left Venezuela after our parents spent all they had to give us a new life in America, but our hearts never left, it has been 9 years since I have seen my parents not on a video call. My family and people back home have endured years of corruption, repression, and collapse. Whatever you think about how it happened, Maduro’s capture feels like the first real moment of consequence. I’ve been on and off the phone with my family all day, just tears of joy.
Let’s not pretend Venezuela isn’t rejoicing right now, this is a great day for all Venezuelans at home and abroad, just look at r/vzla and r/AskVenezuela. The comments I have seen in this sub today are so out of touch with the reality of the struggle and feelings of our people.
Gennaro_Svastano on
I don’t see anyone doing anything about it. It will be another scandal by middle of next week
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And MAGA won’t care because this means more brown people will die.
Didn’t he warn Kamala would start WW3? Projection as always.
So the US President is officially above the law and has total immunity … however foreign leaders must obey American laws. How the fuck did we end up here?
I’m not saying there is not much that is questionable here. There is a lot. But the coup was not today. The coup was when the 2024 election was not honored and this man remained in power. That was a coup. By definition a coup. A dictator refused the election results and usurped power. I distinctly recall Biden condemning this behavior and I agree. You don’t get to disregard election results, stay in power, and call it a “coup” when you are removed.
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Well, the world won’t stand up to Trump, so doesn’t really matter
he has no respect for the rule of law.
this is what it’s all about
https://youtu.be/YW2jyOV_jVQ
This was the plan along btw. Jeffrey Epstein participated in discussions about an invasion of Venezuela to steal the country’s oil. It is literally in the files.
Source: [https://rollcall.com/factbase/epstein/file?id=House_Oversight_025734-025761](https://rollcall.com/factbase/epstein/file?id=House_Oversight_025734-025761)
Same story, different decade. Trump just makes it look more inelegant because he’s not clever.
An attack on one sovereign nation is an attack on all sovereign nations.
SC Justices are equally evil as Donald Trump.
Without them our democracy would still be alive.
We still haven’t dealt with the coup in America.
Today is deadline to release Epstien files unredacted
I’ve had numerous Americans on here, from left to right, tell me (a Canadian) that I should chill with my anti-America rhetoric because everything is going to go back to normal.
Well, from where I’m looking, trump just invaded a sovereign country without congress so it could take its resources. I don’t think I’m being delirious when I say Canada is fuckin’ pissed off at you guys and fuckin’ SCARED.
My terminology is rusty… is it called a coup when a felon/child molestor who destroyed his own economy, orders the military takeover of another country and steals their natural resources?
Not a coup. An illegal abduction of a (admittedly absolute POS) foreign head of state. A coup is done by the citizens of that country, for better or worse, but from within. It seems like semantics, but it’s not. As illegitimate as a coup typically is (Since usually it’s not from bad to good or oppressed to free), it’s *still* legally more legitimate than just grabbing a head of state.
Let’s see if forcing regime changes has worked in the past:
Here is a list of significant U.S.-involved regime changes and their outcomes:
Cold War Era Interventions
Iran (1953): The CIA and British intelligence orchestrated a coup to overthrow the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh, who had nationalized Iran’s oil industry.
Outcome: The pro-Western monarch, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (the Shah), was installed as a dictator. The deep-seated resentment from this event contributed significantly to the 1979 Islamic Revolution, which brought to power the anti-American clerical regime that rules Iran today.
Guatemala (1954): A U.S.-backed coup ousted the democratically elected President Jacobo Árbenz, whose land reforms affected U.S. corporate interests (United Fruit Company).
Outcome: The coup ushered in a series of brutal military regimes and a 36-year civil war, which killed an estimated 200,000 people and left lasting instability.
Cuba (1961): The U.S.-sponsored Bay of Pigs invasion by armed exiles attempted to overthrow Fidel Castro’s communist government.
Outcome: The invasion was a dramatic failure and a significant foreign policy embarrassment for the U.S.. It solidified Castro’s power and pushed Cuba further into an alliance with the Soviet Union, directly contributing to the Cuban Missile Crisis the following year. The U.S. still condemns the current Cuban regime for repression and economic dysfunction.
South Vietnam (1963): The U.S. supported a coup against its ally, President Ngo Dinh Diem, after he became unpopular due to his persecution of Buddhists and inability to win the war against the North.
Outcome: Diem’s assassination and the subsequent political instability paved the way for increased U.S. military involvement, escalating the Vietnam War, which resulted in millions of casualties and ultimately ended in a U.S. withdrawal and communist victory.
Chile (1973): The U.S. supported the military coup led by General Augusto Pinochet, which overthrew the democratically elected socialist President Salvador Allende.
Outcome: Pinochet established a brutal dictatorship that lasted until 1990, during which human rights were severely violated.
Post-Cold War Interventions
Panama (1989): The U.S. military invaded Panama to depose dictator Manuel Noriega.
Outcome: Noriega was captured and extradited to the U.S. to face drug trafficking charges. This case is often cited as a rare example of a successful transition to democracy by foreign-imposed regime change, which has been stable in the long term.
Haiti (1994): U.S. troops were sent to restore the constitutional government of elected President Jean-Bertrand Aristide after a military coup.
Outcome: The U.S. intervention did not lead to sustainable growth or stability, with minimal foreign investment in the years following the mission and subsequent political instability and another coup in 2004.
Afghanistan (2001): The U.S. invaded Afghanistan to dismantle Al-Qaeda and overthrow the Taliban regime that harbored them.
Outcome: An interim, U.S.-backed government was established, and the U.S. engaged in a two-decade nation-building project. Following the complete withdrawal of U.S. forces in August 2021, the Afghan government collapsed, and the Taliban quickly retook control of the country.
Iraq (2003): The U.S. led an invasion to overthrow Saddam Hussein’s government, based on the assertion that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction (which were never found).
Outcome: Saddam Hussein was overthrown, but the invasion triggered a prolonged insurgency, sectarian violence, and civil war, leading to hundreds of thousands of deaths and regional destabilization. Iraq has remained unstable, and the invasion is widely considered a failure in achieving its envisioned goals.
Libya (2011): The U.S. participated in a NATO-led military intervention that resulted in the overthrow and death of Muammar Gaddafi.
Outcome: The intervention left the North African nation effectively lawless, plunging it into a protracted civil war and creating a power vacuum that allowed extremist groups to establish a presence.
Well maybe this will be the first …..
I think this is a little hyperbolic. I don’t support this but that headline is too much. This isn’t the first or last time we’ve done something like this
I think at least some of the shock globally isn’t that the US, under Trump, wouldn’t do this (a tiger doesn’t change its stripes so easily) but that it can still do this so easily. Surely we live in a more multipolar world today where countries like China and Russia, and the EU and others could exercise some type of influence to stop this. But no. The buildup and harassment of Venezuela has been underway for months without any very clear demands that Trump back down. We may think we may have turned a page from the neo-colonialism of the last half of the last century but it turns out nothing has really changed.
All the progress the world had made since WWII has just been deleted by Trump.
It’s hilarious that people are concerned about justice outside the US while ignoring the numerous illegal activities from the current administration in our own country. How quickly many forget what happened on January 6, 2021.
No it’s not! Trump is going to allow the people to select their own leader. Free from any outside interference. We should all be celebrating. All the money from their oil will be given back to the people! We have also put troops on the ground to protect civilians from any cartel retaliation there, since we know what happens in vacuums of power.
Once we’ve settled this we’re going to go to other nations whose people are being exploited by drug lords and dictators. Trump will free millions when we go to Africa to depose their dictators and build up their infrastructure too. This is all being done in the name of peace and freedom. Don’t forget.
And once the oil companies and natural recourse companies have help the other countries with their infrastructure they will come back to the US and help fix all the aging, crumbling infrastructure here. Help others before ourselves. True selflessness!
r/Venezuela seems to be celebrating
Well now you know why NK and few other countries have Nukes.
Trump is empowered by this attack. He will threaten peacefully country leaders for money or sign terrible trade deals. You wouldn’t want to be in prison like the leader of Venezuela right?
Trump is a liar. Exhibit #1145, he does not believe in meddling overseas.
Let’s see the unredacted Epstein files.
This is just in bad faith. My brother and I left Venezuela after our parents spent all they had to give us a new life in America, but our hearts never left, it has been 9 years since I have seen my parents not on a video call. My family and people back home have endured years of corruption, repression, and collapse. Whatever you think about how it happened, Maduro’s capture feels like the first real moment of consequence. I’ve been on and off the phone with my family all day, just tears of joy.
Let’s not pretend Venezuela isn’t rejoicing right now, this is a great day for all Venezuelans at home and abroad, just look at r/vzla and r/AskVenezuela. The comments I have seen in this sub today are so out of touch with the reality of the struggle and feelings of our people.
I don’t see anyone doing anything about it. It will be another scandal by middle of next week