Iraq was a fucking disaster, but we went in with a plan. That Trump and his crew took ONE guy out of the country and expected the whole attitude of the ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to shift is telling on themselves.
Cheney had a plan.
Trump has the concepts of the idea of a plan.
Probable_Bison on
Damn can a Republican President *not* start an armed conflict for oil?
KingMario05 on
If anything, it’d be worse. Much worse. For the past two decades, our forces have prepped primarily for desert insurgencies. Venezuela has lush jungles, massive cities, and some of the largest mountains in South America. Guess what it *doesn’t* have? And guess what our last jungle war was? Here’s a hint: [It’s the one we lost.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War)
Adventurous_Test_296 on
Vietnam revisited. American colonialism works out even worse in jungles than in deserts, as we have already seen. Unfortunately, none of the current White House decision-makers have any jungle combat experience to relate to.
Alternative_Rate7474 on
~~could~~ will
byndr on
There’s plenty of reason to believe it won’t when competent military leaders are being replaced with sycophants like Hegseth.
Particular_Peacock on
When has an occupation succeeded since the early 19th century? Meaningful firepower combined with guerilla tactics and suicide bombing makes occupation *extremely* challenging, I imagine.
Orphanhorns on
It’s already a disaster, they control nothing! They just kidnapped a guy and his wife and left the rest of the government intact!
JuniperJupiter4 on
Dick Cheney had a plan and still completely fumbled Iraq.
Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio have no plan and are *nowhere near* as qualified and intelligent as Dick Cheney was.
Word1_Word2_4Numbers on
What in the fuck is even going on with Venezuela now?
We kidnapped the President. The VP is in charge. We don’t have boots on the ground.
Nothing meaningfully changed at all.
So what now?
Operation Epstein Distraction is successfully wiping that off the headlines for a while, though…
Feyenoord22 on
What? With Pete Kegsbreath in charge? Say it isn’t so!
Hairydone on
Somehow this will be the Democrats fault.
Alwaystired254 on
Doesn’t really matter. Americans are sheep, so if Trump says we win, it’s a win
flinderdude on
But didn’t we spread democracy in the Middle East and all of those American kids who died for such a great cause?
IndyDMan5483 on
Was it Rummy or Cheney who said the Iraqis will great us with flowers?
If they did they had a trip wire connected to them.
Also, China is the top customer for Venezuela’s oil and has oil facilities in Venezuela. They’re cool with this, right?
Alisa606 on
If the goal was complete destruction, the US would have won every single war it was ever in. But as we have all learned about warfare in the modern age, wanting to capture something means nothing if you destroy it all, which means you need to fight for it on the ground, and that complicates your victory conditions. It’s also important to remember that one big reason this guy wants to get rid of anyone a shade of brown is because they might cause problems on account of the US taking over their country. You think someone is going to steal away Mexico and all of South America, and not have something happen? It’s easier to bomb brown people when they’re half a world a way, not when they’re on your doorstep and a part of your population.
pennylanebarbershop on
Trump is now effectively the American dictator.
IndyDMan5483 on
30% of them are angry, befuddled loudmouths. The rest of us are not, we’re just angry. Really angry.
AleroRatking on
The only difference is I expect a democratic president in 28 would be much more willing to pull out immediately than Iraq.
kronikfumes on
Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, were all just nation building test runs, surely this time it’s different!
Positive_Chip6198 on
Wait until the oil companies refuse to risk the lives of their workers, moving into an unwilling country with guerilla activity.
SummerSun75 on
Grandpa just waves his wand and the whole world falls in line.
What could go wrong?
And all you MAGA Morons out there. Don’t you worry. You’re still gonna lose your healthcare!!
thebadproducerbkk on
Could?
Adventurous_Test_296 on
Trump’s off to a flailing start just by allowing the placement of Maduro’s VEEP! Guess he was jealous of a truly democratic process. How long will Madame Presidente be in power before he deposes her?
DerpsTerps on
The dude fucks everything he does up. Surrounds himself with incompetent yes men. This guy is the only president dumber than George W. It will be much worse than Iraq.
Bishopjones2112 on
What the hell is happening. Seriously. The states isn’t running anything committing war crimes and then Ignoring international law and abduction a sitting president and openly talking about running the country to build oil production and the. Threatening to do the same to at least three other countries.
What the hell is being done about this. This is insanity. Seriously close to 1939 here. Except this time it’s the states. Is there not anything being done here.
Raiden29o9 on
All he is going to do is create more and more pockets of the world that will hate the U.S(more so then before) because let’s be honest…. Even after he is gone people aren’t magically going to forgive the U.S, we will still remember that they voted for this pedo rapist and that for a certain segment as long as they get to blame other people for their problems and be bigoted…. Then they will vote for another politician just as bad as trump
RustedRelics on
*”Marco Rubio, who is the secretary of state, the national security adviser and the acting national archivist”* Perhaps we can now add *Viceroy of Venezuela* to Little Marco’s laundry list of roles.
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Iraq was a fucking disaster, but we went in with a plan. That Trump and his crew took ONE guy out of the country and expected the whole attitude of the ENTIRE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT to shift is telling on themselves.
Cheney had a plan.
Trump has the concepts of the idea of a plan.
Damn can a Republican President *not* start an armed conflict for oil?
If anything, it’d be worse. Much worse. For the past two decades, our forces have prepped primarily for desert insurgencies. Venezuela has lush jungles, massive cities, and some of the largest mountains in South America. Guess what it *doesn’t* have? And guess what our last jungle war was? Here’s a hint: [It’s the one we lost.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War)
Vietnam revisited. American colonialism works out even worse in jungles than in deserts, as we have already seen. Unfortunately, none of the current White House decision-makers have any jungle combat experience to relate to.
~~could~~ will
There’s plenty of reason to believe it won’t when competent military leaders are being replaced with sycophants like Hegseth.
When has an occupation succeeded since the early 19th century? Meaningful firepower combined with guerilla tactics and suicide bombing makes occupation *extremely* challenging, I imagine.
It’s already a disaster, they control nothing! They just kidnapped a guy and his wife and left the rest of the government intact!
Dick Cheney had a plan and still completely fumbled Iraq.
Pete Hegseth and Marco Rubio have no plan and are *nowhere near* as qualified and intelligent as Dick Cheney was.
What in the fuck is even going on with Venezuela now?
We kidnapped the President. The VP is in charge. We don’t have boots on the ground.
Nothing meaningfully changed at all.
So what now?
Operation Epstein Distraction is successfully wiping that off the headlines for a while, though…
What? With Pete Kegsbreath in charge? Say it isn’t so!
Somehow this will be the Democrats fault.
Doesn’t really matter. Americans are sheep, so if Trump says we win, it’s a win
But didn’t we spread democracy in the Middle East and all of those American kids who died for such a great cause?
Was it Rummy or Cheney who said the Iraqis will great us with flowers?
If they did they had a trip wire connected to them.
Also, China is the top customer for Venezuela’s oil and has oil facilities in Venezuela. They’re cool with this, right?
If the goal was complete destruction, the US would have won every single war it was ever in. But as we have all learned about warfare in the modern age, wanting to capture something means nothing if you destroy it all, which means you need to fight for it on the ground, and that complicates your victory conditions. It’s also important to remember that one big reason this guy wants to get rid of anyone a shade of brown is because they might cause problems on account of the US taking over their country. You think someone is going to steal away Mexico and all of South America, and not have something happen? It’s easier to bomb brown people when they’re half a world a way, not when they’re on your doorstep and a part of your population.
Trump is now effectively the American dictator.
30% of them are angry, befuddled loudmouths. The rest of us are not, we’re just angry. Really angry.
The only difference is I expect a democratic president in 28 would be much more willing to pull out immediately than Iraq.
Vietnam, Panama, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, were all just nation building test runs, surely this time it’s different!
Wait until the oil companies refuse to risk the lives of their workers, moving into an unwilling country with guerilla activity.
Grandpa just waves his wand and the whole world falls in line.
What could go wrong?
And all you MAGA Morons out there. Don’t you worry. You’re still gonna lose your healthcare!!
Could?
Trump’s off to a flailing start just by allowing the placement of Maduro’s VEEP! Guess he was jealous of a truly democratic process. How long will Madame Presidente be in power before he deposes her?
The dude fucks everything he does up. Surrounds himself with incompetent yes men. This guy is the only president dumber than George W. It will be much worse than Iraq.
What the hell is happening. Seriously. The states isn’t running anything committing war crimes and then Ignoring international law and abduction a sitting president and openly talking about running the country to build oil production and the. Threatening to do the same to at least three other countries.
What the hell is being done about this. This is insanity. Seriously close to 1939 here. Except this time it’s the states. Is there not anything being done here.
All he is going to do is create more and more pockets of the world that will hate the U.S(more so then before) because let’s be honest…. Even after he is gone people aren’t magically going to forgive the U.S, we will still remember that they voted for this pedo rapist and that for a certain segment as long as they get to blame other people for their problems and be bigoted…. Then they will vote for another politician just as bad as trump
*”Marco Rubio, who is the secretary of state, the national security adviser and the acting national archivist”* Perhaps we can now add *Viceroy of Venezuela* to Little Marco’s laundry list of roles.