“Abolish ICE” Is More Popular Than Ever. How Will Democrats Drop the Ball This Time? | Establishment Democrats are rejecting an increasingly popular position by refusing to take a bold stance that happens to be good politics
Source: Hrmbee
“Abolish ICE” Is More Popular Than Ever. How Will Democrats Drop the Ball This Time? | Establishment Democrats are rejecting an increasingly popular position by refusing to take a bold stance that happens to be good politics
Source: Hrmbee
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They WILL drop the ball, because it’s by design. This two-party system needs to go.
Anyone working for ICE today can not be assumed to have a good moral character. To inflict such pain and suffering on unarmed people takes a very “special” kind of person. The Dems cannot just let ICE continue thinking the rot will go away with a change of leadership. It won’t. ICE has to be abolished and they need to start over, clean slate with rigorous vetting.
Schumer and Jeffries have already pushed back on focusing on actions to shutdown ICE.
> “We’ll figure out the accountability mechanisms at the appropriate time,” Jeffries told reporters.
And Schumer refused to say whether the Democrats would use the appropriations process as leverage to cut funding to ICE and completely ignored reporters question and remained silent when handed easy questions on ICE.
https://truthout.org/articles/schumer-and-jeffries-refuse-to-back-growing-democratic-calls-to-defund-ice/
“Abolish ICE”: Old and busted.
“”Prosecute ICE”: New hotness
Democratic leadership (Schumer & Jeffries) will say “we don’t want to hurt our GOP colleagues’ feelings. If we wait, they will do the right thing. Let’s not rock the boat.”
Democrats are so innovative. Always finding a new and better way to take the L.
There is no conversation on this matter for me. I will only support candidates that vow to abolish ICE
No one is saying we don’t want border control or to deport criminal illegal immigrants, but that was already being done by local law enforcement and the INS. Personally, I think it’s time to dissolve the Homeland Security agency. It’s been nothing but a boondoggle since its inception. Every law enforcement agency in the country lines up like pigs to a trough to claim they are the true “defenders” or “patriots” that deserve the money. Every rural county’s SWAT team claims they need millions for a decommissioned tank or armored troop carrier and there’s always some company there to sell it to them at a ridiculous price. ICE is the latest “patriot” agency. They want to act like they’re defending America but really they’re just cosplaying tough guys against a manufactured threat.
You’re telling me the controlled opposition won’t actually do anything to stop this? Color me shocked.
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This is really fucking easy. Even if you were somehow opposed to this or thought it was problematic for whatever reason, you say: we are going to vote to abolish ICE unless they meet these exact criteria. Then you work to impose that criteria. I mean, there is no reason not to say you support abolishing ICE and, more importantly, the way ICE is operating cannot continue. It must be stopped and abolishing ICE is one of many options.
Wore my “sugar, spice, abolish ice” shirt out today. Granted, I’m in Denver, but nothing but smiles and compliments
No they will not drop the ball. They will snatch the ball from their teammates and hand it over.
It’s the messaging. It’s always the messaging. Abolish ICE, reform ICE, make ICE dress up like ballerinas and perform for everyone. It doesn’t matter what they say unless they have clear and discplined messaging that someone who reads at a 5th grade level or below can understand and relate to.
Let’s also just be clear though; they *can’t* abolish ICE. Even if the Democrats made the motions to, it will never come to the floor for a vote. There is a slim chance of *any* legislation regarding ICE to come to the floor.
>more popular then ever
Ffs almost half the country still supports ICE and its policies. Why the fuck are we blaming dems right now?
At this point, it’s more deliberate incompetence, courtesy of their money sources that are cashing in on as much of this as possible while the government is useless at best, massively enabling at worst.
I wish I could offer my farm as a staging location for an anti-ICE militia, but I have small children and Trump and ICE have shown they are a danger to all children, not just the ones Donald Trump raped.
Let’s wait for abolishing ICE to poll 55% support. Until then, this is premature.
The public doesn’t want Democrats to abolish ICE the public wants Democrats to Nuremberg ICE.
Schumer and Jefferies are on the MAGA side for me.
It’s because the democratic establishment is as bad as Republicans.
Democrats want the resultant control just as much as Republicans, and now they get to act as though they had nothing to do with it.
It’s long past time for a third party, or more.
I’m just glad this shit is showing liberals how bought mainstream Democrats are. I won’t be voting for a Democrat for president unless they vow to dismantle ICE.
The Republicans will promise the Democrats that they can kick the ball this time and they won’t pull it away at the last second
I’d rather get rid of IC department and bring back the department of education
Democrats are worried about people crossing the aisle and won’t risk the potential of that happening.
The reality is, people aren’t crossing that aisle for your ability to work with Republicans. They’re crossing it for change, and if you won’t commit to change, it’s going to be more losses.
Weird. I thought the problem was the GOP is arming a hastily trained paramilitary to abuse passerby. Or the GOP abandoning Ukraine to invade Greenland.
Glad to see it’s all somehow the Democrats’ fault. /s The party that is – checks notes – running scared after being swept out of power in all branches of government. Yup. They must be the main problem.
We keep losing the plot with this type of wordplay bickering. Frankly no, I don’t think slogans like “abolish __” help much compared to the real problems in our police forces. All nations have police and border enforcement. But the good ones don’t have those folk shooting or tackling random people on the street.
We need major reforms. We need to learn from functional countries. We don’t need to remake the wheel.
How will we blame the Democrats for the Republicans actions this time?
Let’s write another article!
What Americans really hate are cowards. Republican cowards who kiss Trump’s ass. Democratic cowards whose voices have dropped to a whisper.
Cowards.
Cowards.
Cowards.
They already dropped the ball by saying they wanted more funding and training for ice. Because the Gestapo totally doesn’t know it’s doing evil things gleefully and it’s just being a bunch of untrained silly lil guys who don’t know better obviously.
I’m increasingly disillusioned with the Democrats. There are some great politicians among them, but the party as a whole is simply complicit in the downfall of the US.
MN Attorney General Keith Ellison is requesting any information or evidence people have of ICE agents committing crimes to be used for documentation, legal action, and future prosecution.
https://ag.state.mn.us/Federal-Action/
Other Dems are taking action as well.
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/ice-in-minnesota/ilhan-omar-hosts-congressional-hearing-on-ice-action-in-twin-cities/89-8c06d42d-ee6c-4329-9af8-5cdfab749917
https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/democrats-propose-state-laws-limit-ice-after-minneapolis-129230341
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/senate-democrats-push-for-noem-homan-testimony-after-renee-good-killing/
Sen Booker is already saying we should throw money at more training. Complete clown show
The corporate Democrat establishment needs to go. They are holding us back and dropping an extremely catchable ball
Establishment democrats = republicans by another name. They are only interested in themselves and their power.