And legally acceptable. In fact, they have an obligation to disobey illegal orders. Sucks that they fired all the JAGs who could make it easier to tell the legal from the illegal, but it doesn’t change the fact that they have to disobey illegal orders.
moderatenerd on
they want the troops to disobey but they can’t remove the sob making the orders??? it should not be on the little guy to rebel. congress should be doing stuff. republicans should be doing stuff
Theferael_me on
Legally sensible too…
3rdFloorFolklore on
Not only morally acceptable but constitutionally sound. They took an oath after all. Good on you Padre for saying it out loud.
KingMario05 on
Yes. Our government has been conquered. Remember your oath, boys. Protect us from all enemies, foreign *and* domestic.
darth_helcaraxe_82 on
How about instead we just remove the people making the orders that morally should be disobeyed.
Psephological on
And if any of them want to actually start, that’d be great.
Specialist-Bug1592 on
Waiting for the Catholic Church to be declared a terrorist organization.
liebkartoffel on
I mean, it shouldn’t take an archbishop to tell you that, but good to have people in authority reminding everyone.
PrincipleUnusual7244 on
Hegseth gonna dock his retirement and demote him
Alastor999 on
Just remind them that if they commit a war crime that saying “Just following orders’ won’t save their asses.
dblan9 on
Watch out. Christians dont like that kind of talk and will unleash the DOJ on the archbishop if he’s not careful.
CurrentlyLucid on
When I joined, I took an oath that REQUIRED me to disobey illegal orders.
thrawtes on
The issue isn’t that service members feel obligated to follow illegal orders, the issue is that service members are intentionally being put in situations where it is difficult to determine if what they’re being asked to do is legal.
That was an intentional choice by this administration when they purged the JAG Corps (military lawyers). Service members have legal counsel but that legal counsel has more loyalty to the administration than the law.
el_dadarino on
We swore an oath to defend the Constitution of The United States of America from all enemies. Foreign and domestic. Now is the time to fulfill that oath.
Parzival_1775 on
Under this administration, more like ‘morally *necessary.’* In a lot of ways, I regret not reenlisting and making a full career in the military; but given current events, I’m pretty happy to *not* have to deal with the shit my friends who are still in uniform are going through.
N1TEKN1GHT on
Its literally an obligation to disobey illegal orders.
Ninevehenian on
I appreciate the timing and clarity of that wording.
SgtNeilDiamond on
If you’re in the military and you take action against an ally don’t expect to be coming home to fucking parades. You’ll be hated by everyone for the rest of your life.
Puzzled-Dress-4904 on
In an earlier thread today I was castigating the Roman Catholic Church for not speaking clearly and forcefully about the moral issues at stake here.
I’m happy to be shown to be wrong for at least this member of the Catholic clergy
IrememberXenogears on
I’d call it morally imperative.
UmberJamber on
So, let’s take stock here. They are legally obligated to disobey illegal orders and the church says they should disobey them, too.
So, Christian Right, who is all about the rule of law and religion, think of this?
mlc885 on
I know there are a lot of idiots in this world, but no shit it is morally acceptable to disobey orders when you should. It is literally illegal to obey unlawful orders, disobeying an order telling you to, like, shoot somebody wrongfully is obviously good. Disobeying an order to start a nuclear war, well, you know.
Accomplished-Run221 on
Morally REQUIRED
Drabulous_770 on
The time is always right to do what is right
ophaus on
Fuck morals, it’s LEGALLY REQUIRED. “Just following orders” won’t absolve you from legal responsibility.
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And legally acceptable. In fact, they have an obligation to disobey illegal orders. Sucks that they fired all the JAGs who could make it easier to tell the legal from the illegal, but it doesn’t change the fact that they have to disobey illegal orders.
they want the troops to disobey but they can’t remove the sob making the orders??? it should not be on the little guy to rebel. congress should be doing stuff. republicans should be doing stuff
Legally sensible too…
Not only morally acceptable but constitutionally sound. They took an oath after all. Good on you Padre for saying it out loud.
Yes. Our government has been conquered. Remember your oath, boys. Protect us from all enemies, foreign *and* domestic.
How about instead we just remove the people making the orders that morally should be disobeyed.
And if any of them want to actually start, that’d be great.
Waiting for the Catholic Church to be declared a terrorist organization.
I mean, it shouldn’t take an archbishop to tell you that, but good to have people in authority reminding everyone.
Hegseth gonna dock his retirement and demote him
Just remind them that if they commit a war crime that saying “Just following orders’ won’t save their asses.
Watch out. Christians dont like that kind of talk and will unleash the DOJ on the archbishop if he’s not careful.
When I joined, I took an oath that REQUIRED me to disobey illegal orders.
The issue isn’t that service members feel obligated to follow illegal orders, the issue is that service members are intentionally being put in situations where it is difficult to determine if what they’re being asked to do is legal.
That was an intentional choice by this administration when they purged the JAG Corps (military lawyers). Service members have legal counsel but that legal counsel has more loyalty to the administration than the law.
We swore an oath to defend the Constitution of The United States of America from all enemies. Foreign and domestic. Now is the time to fulfill that oath.
Under this administration, more like ‘morally *necessary.’* In a lot of ways, I regret not reenlisting and making a full career in the military; but given current events, I’m pretty happy to *not* have to deal with the shit my friends who are still in uniform are going through.
Its literally an obligation to disobey illegal orders.
I appreciate the timing and clarity of that wording.
If you’re in the military and you take action against an ally don’t expect to be coming home to fucking parades. You’ll be hated by everyone for the rest of your life.
In an earlier thread today I was castigating the Roman Catholic Church for not speaking clearly and forcefully about the moral issues at stake here.
I’m happy to be shown to be wrong for at least this member of the Catholic clergy
I’d call it morally imperative.
So, let’s take stock here. They are legally obligated to disobey illegal orders and the church says they should disobey them, too.
So, Christian Right, who is all about the rule of law and religion, think of this?
I know there are a lot of idiots in this world, but no shit it is morally acceptable to disobey orders when you should. It is literally illegal to obey unlawful orders, disobeying an order telling you to, like, shoot somebody wrongfully is obviously good. Disobeying an order to start a nuclear war, well, you know.
Morally REQUIRED
The time is always right to do what is right
Fuck morals, it’s LEGALLY REQUIRED. “Just following orders” won’t absolve you from legal responsibility.