Hotels in Minnesota in January? They are probably excited about the business. Like big corporations care about people or democracy?
InsideAside885 on
Good luck getting them to do that.
Hilton corporate is pulling franchise licenses from any franchise property that refuses to house DHS employees.
allenahansen on
Hell, with that $50K signing bonus they can house themselves.
CouchCorrespondent on
“Wait! What? You want us to miss out on money? We can’t possibly do something honorable if a buck is to be made! Ask someone else!”
MiddleAgedSponger on
They don’t respect the other amendments , why would they respect the third?
MarlinMaverick on
What exactly do these people think the 3rd Amendment is?
BobInIdaho on
Unfortunately, many of those hotels saw large income reductions in 2025 due to the lack of tourism caused by the current administration, and are desperate for any revenue streams currently replacing those missing dollars.
RedditReader4031 on
Hotel chains have government prices built in into their rate structures meaning they likely have contractural agreements with the federal government in the same way they do with AAA. In fact, the operator that cancelled those ICE reservations was a local Hilton franchisee who probably did so because extensive use by that agency was blocking out those business and travel customers who pay higher prices.
hazlethings on
It makes one wish for folks like Hiddleston’s character in The Night Manager – or anyone to pass along, or retain, info that could ID ICE-folk, even later on.
PartyClient3447 on
One tried to ban ice and Hilton dropped them like a hot potato.
AfternoonFormal4657 on
I guess I won’t be staying with Hilton again, fuck them
GigMistress on
No 3rd amendment necessary. They can just decline the reservation.
Waste-Diamond-5875 on
Pretty sure that wouldn’t work because they aren’t taking up residence w/o payment
Acceptable-Bus-2017 on
Buisnesses can simply refuse service.
Notgreygoddess on
For real impact, groups and businesses can announce they won’t book rooms or events at locations that house ICE. Your kid’s hockey, baseball, football teams. Union and company dinners, fundraisers etc.
ShumaG on
Did you stop to think about the money though?
foggynighttonight on
How about nurses boycotting treatment of ice thugs
IUsedToBeACave on
They don’t need the 3rd amendment unless the government attempts to force the issue. At the moment the hotels seems happy to take their money and give them rooms. So were going to have to start there before going to SCOTUS.
apiso on
I hope I’m wrong, but I worry this will solve itself when someone out there decides to outright bomb or burn down a hotel full of ice agents. Be safe and smart everyone.
verone3784 on
Fuck just doing this in America, make them feel it globally.
There are five Hilton owned hotels here in Iceland, several people including myself are already circulating lists of them and letting people know to avoid staying with them when they come to the country.
If you ever visit, don’t stay here:
* Hilton Reykjavík Nordica
* Skald Hotel Akureyri – Curio Collection by Hilton
* Rekjavík Konsulat Hotel – Curio Collection by Hilton
* Iceland Parliament Hotel – Curio Collection by Hilton
* Canopy by Hilton – Reykjavík City Center
Fuck ’em.
Fragrant-Ambition853 on
I’ve been done with Hilton hotels after they removed the property that refused service to ICE.
TarquinusSuperbus000 on
No. The hotels are willingly renting rooms for money. They aren’t being forced to house ICE/CBP, so the Third Amendment doesn’t apply. Don’t fall for the trap of thinking big business can be turned toward the social good.
Cardsfan961 on
So most hotels are independently owned and have a “flag” or brand. Affiliating with the larger companies (Hilton, Marriott etc) gives them access to rewards programs, marketing, software, reservations system etc. it’s a bit like a franchise in the fast food world.
Now many of these are owned by companies with several to many hotels. But the large hotel names cannot mandate under their flag agreements that a specific hotel turn away business.
Individual locations can choose whether to offer certain rates (ie government rates) and how many rooms to make available at said rates. Evidently the Hilton flag contract would allow for Hilton to pull the licensing agreement for refusing to house the gestapo. I can’t speak to what might be in the contractual language of other chains.
Individual hotels could reduce government rate rooms to zero, raise general rates but offer discounts to specific customers etc. Since ICE has a basically unlimited budget this would be a tiny speed bump.
Where they can act would be to cite the Minnesota Inkeeper eviction criteria:
ADMIT.
§Subdivision 1.Innkeeper’s right to eject. (a) An innkeeper may remove or cause to be removed from a hotel a guest or other person who:
(1) refuses or is unable to pay for accommodations or services;
(2) while on the premises of the hotel acts in an obviously intoxicated or disorderly manner, destroys or threatens to destroy hotel property, or causes or threatens to cause a disturbance;
(3) the innkeeper reasonably believes is using the premises for the unlawful possession or use of controlled substances by the person in violation of chapter 152, or using the premises for the consumption of alcohol by a person under the age of 21 years in violation of section 340A.503;
(4) the innkeeper reasonably believes has brought property into the hotel that may be dangerous to other persons, such as firearms or explosives;
(5) violates any federal, state, or local laws, ordinances, or rules relating to the hotel; or
(6) violates a rule of the hotel that is clearly and conspicuously posted at or near the front desk and on the inside of the entrance door of every guest room.
They could evict their asses if the cause a disturbance. I’m guessing these goons are not well behaved.
JaVelin-X- on
Chains are owned by billionaires. The state government could seize them
Crionso on
Is it settled law or open for interpretation whether the third amendment applies to hotels?
JoplinSC742 on
You know it’s bad when the 3rd amendment, something that hasn’t been invoked in centuries, is suddenly being invoked.
SwearImNotACat on
Agree
Sofele on
This leaves me torn. On one hand, unlike the citizens united bullshit, if corporations are not people the. the bill of rights should not apply – all rights not just speech. On the other, I would love to see corporations grow a set and refuse service to any portion of Orange hitlers government – which they could do without using anything in the bill of rights. It would be enough to just refuse service and as long as it’s not because of membership in a protected group that fine (being a nazi pos isn’t a protected class).
randomnobody14 on
They’ve tried but the billionaires all got together first and decided fascism isn’t bad when they get to make the rules so they revoke licenses and pretend to be neutral while complying fully with the fascist regime.
osumba2003 on
The third amendment doesn’t even apply here, which is about quartering soldiers in private homes. A hotel is not a private home.
However, as a private business, a hotel can legally deny service to anyone for any reason that is not otherwise protected. ICE is not a protected class.
RellenD on
The government isn’t forcing them to house ICE. They’re paying them and they’re greedily accepting it
CableDawg78 on
While the 3rd Amendment would be the way to go, hotel owners won’t do that and “get on the wrong side of the bed of trump”.
Unless the general public that has rewards with certain chains and band together to affect their bottom line and occupancy.
Boobtheboob on
Yeah im sure
mtotally on
Good to know to never use Hilton again
_WEND1G0_ on
Well, I appreciate the sentiment, calling ICE soldiers, is arguably a more insulting equivalency than calling them cops
tryingtoview on
When I worked for Aimbridge, we were specifically instructed by corporate to never allow ICE or police any information of guests or employees to avoid raids, and to demand warrants for absolutely any police involvement on site that was not initiated by us.
GaiaMoore on
Since the 3rd Amendment so rarely comes up relative to the others, it’s fun listening to Constitutional scholars debate the precise meaning — that’s how little attention it gets in the modern world.
At the time, Vladeck joked that it would be the only time they’d ever have a substantive conversation about the 3rd amendment thanks to Trump. Here’s to round two lol
justhavingfunMT on
Might as well test their willingness to spit on another constitutional amendment.
Strange-Parfait-8801 on
A hilton worker in Dallas was fired for posting on Tik Tok that they were housing ICE agents and guests/workers should be careful about coming ot the hotel.
Fuck you Hilton Anatole. Literally never giving you a dime ever again.
(Also a *ton* of LGBTQ events used to use that hotel and you bet your ass they’re never getting another cent from the gays ever again.)
RalphBlood on
BRB. Leaving one star reviews for all Hilton properties in my area.
dontchewspagetti on
Never did i imagine a day when people would knoe what the fucking ugly step brother of a law the 3rd amendment was… but by god. This would be AMAZING to try. There’s like NO precedent for this shit
EconomyProcedure9 on
They already tried that, and the corporate suck ups punished the hotel that did it.
ailish on
They would if they weren’t greedy corporations.
flriverpeople on
Won’t happen. The Federal govt will just start auditing them, and any tiny thing they find, they will fine the hotel/chain out of existence. Govt wields huge power to get businesses to do what they want.
brihere on
It is fascinating how fast principles and ethics go out the window when it comes to money. That’s what America is all about.
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Hotels in Minnesota in January? They are probably excited about the business. Like big corporations care about people or democracy?
Good luck getting them to do that.
Hilton corporate is pulling franchise licenses from any franchise property that refuses to house DHS employees.
Hell, with that $50K signing bonus they can house themselves.
“Wait! What? You want us to miss out on money? We can’t possibly do something honorable if a buck is to be made! Ask someone else!”
They don’t respect the other amendments , why would they respect the third?
What exactly do these people think the 3rd Amendment is?
Unfortunately, many of those hotels saw large income reductions in 2025 due to the lack of tourism caused by the current administration, and are desperate for any revenue streams currently replacing those missing dollars.
Hotel chains have government prices built in into their rate structures meaning they likely have contractural agreements with the federal government in the same way they do with AAA. In fact, the operator that cancelled those ICE reservations was a local Hilton franchisee who probably did so because extensive use by that agency was blocking out those business and travel customers who pay higher prices.
It makes one wish for folks like Hiddleston’s character in The Night Manager – or anyone to pass along, or retain, info that could ID ICE-folk, even later on.
One tried to ban ice and Hilton dropped them like a hot potato.
I guess I won’t be staying with Hilton again, fuck them
No 3rd amendment necessary. They can just decline the reservation.
Pretty sure that wouldn’t work because they aren’t taking up residence w/o payment
Buisnesses can simply refuse service.
For real impact, groups and businesses can announce they won’t book rooms or events at locations that house ICE. Your kid’s hockey, baseball, football teams. Union and company dinners, fundraisers etc.
Did you stop to think about the money though?
How about nurses boycotting treatment of ice thugs
They don’t need the 3rd amendment unless the government attempts to force the issue. At the moment the hotels seems happy to take their money and give them rooms. So were going to have to start there before going to SCOTUS.
I hope I’m wrong, but I worry this will solve itself when someone out there decides to outright bomb or burn down a hotel full of ice agents. Be safe and smart everyone.
Fuck just doing this in America, make them feel it globally.
There are five Hilton owned hotels here in Iceland, several people including myself are already circulating lists of them and letting people know to avoid staying with them when they come to the country.
If you ever visit, don’t stay here:
* Hilton Reykjavík Nordica
* Skald Hotel Akureyri – Curio Collection by Hilton
* Rekjavík Konsulat Hotel – Curio Collection by Hilton
* Iceland Parliament Hotel – Curio Collection by Hilton
* Canopy by Hilton – Reykjavík City Center
Fuck ’em.
I’ve been done with Hilton hotels after they removed the property that refused service to ICE.
No. The hotels are willingly renting rooms for money. They aren’t being forced to house ICE/CBP, so the Third Amendment doesn’t apply. Don’t fall for the trap of thinking big business can be turned toward the social good.
So most hotels are independently owned and have a “flag” or brand. Affiliating with the larger companies (Hilton, Marriott etc) gives them access to rewards programs, marketing, software, reservations system etc. it’s a bit like a franchise in the fast food world.
Now many of these are owned by companies with several to many hotels. But the large hotel names cannot mandate under their flag agreements that a specific hotel turn away business.
Individual locations can choose whether to offer certain rates (ie government rates) and how many rooms to make available at said rates. Evidently the Hilton flag contract would allow for Hilton to pull the licensing agreement for refusing to house the gestapo. I can’t speak to what might be in the contractual language of other chains.
Individual hotels could reduce government rate rooms to zero, raise general rates but offer discounts to specific customers etc. Since ICE has a basically unlimited budget this would be a tiny speed bump.
Where they can act would be to cite the Minnesota Inkeeper eviction criteria:
ADMIT.
§Subdivision 1.Innkeeper’s right to eject. (a) An innkeeper may remove or cause to be removed from a hotel a guest or other person who:
(1) refuses or is unable to pay for accommodations or services;
(2) while on the premises of the hotel acts in an obviously intoxicated or disorderly manner, destroys or threatens to destroy hotel property, or causes or threatens to cause a disturbance;
(3) the innkeeper reasonably believes is using the premises for the unlawful possession or use of controlled substances by the person in violation of chapter 152, or using the premises for the consumption of alcohol by a person under the age of 21 years in violation of section 340A.503;
(4) the innkeeper reasonably believes has brought property into the hotel that may be dangerous to other persons, such as firearms or explosives;
(5) violates any federal, state, or local laws, ordinances, or rules relating to the hotel; or
(6) violates a rule of the hotel that is clearly and conspicuously posted at or near the front desk and on the inside of the entrance door of every guest room.
They could evict their asses if the cause a disturbance. I’m guessing these goons are not well behaved.
Chains are owned by billionaires. The state government could seize them
Is it settled law or open for interpretation whether the third amendment applies to hotels?
You know it’s bad when the 3rd amendment, something that hasn’t been invoked in centuries, is suddenly being invoked.
Agree
This leaves me torn. On one hand, unlike the citizens united bullshit, if corporations are not people the. the bill of rights should not apply – all rights not just speech. On the other, I would love to see corporations grow a set and refuse service to any portion of Orange hitlers government – which they could do without using anything in the bill of rights. It would be enough to just refuse service and as long as it’s not because of membership in a protected group that fine (being a nazi pos isn’t a protected class).
They’ve tried but the billionaires all got together first and decided fascism isn’t bad when they get to make the rules so they revoke licenses and pretend to be neutral while complying fully with the fascist regime.
The third amendment doesn’t even apply here, which is about quartering soldiers in private homes. A hotel is not a private home.
However, as a private business, a hotel can legally deny service to anyone for any reason that is not otherwise protected. ICE is not a protected class.
The government isn’t forcing them to house ICE. They’re paying them and they’re greedily accepting it
While the 3rd Amendment would be the way to go, hotel owners won’t do that and “get on the wrong side of the bed of trump”.
Unless the general public that has rewards with certain chains and band together to affect their bottom line and occupancy.
Yeah im sure
Good to know to never use Hilton again
Well, I appreciate the sentiment, calling ICE soldiers, is arguably a more insulting equivalency than calling them cops
When I worked for Aimbridge, we were specifically instructed by corporate to never allow ICE or police any information of guests or employees to avoid raids, and to demand warrants for absolutely any police involvement on site that was not initiated by us.
Since the 3rd Amendment so rarely comes up relative to the others, it’s fun listening to Constitutional scholars debate the precise meaning — that’s how little attention it gets in the modern world.
[Here’s an old episode from 2020 of the National Security Law Podcast](https://www.nationalsecuritylawpodcast.com/episode-169-now-were-a-third-amendment-podcast/) where Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney discuss this. It was a brief issue when the National Guard was deployed during the George Floyd protests.
At the time, Vladeck joked that it would be the only time they’d ever have a substantive conversation about the 3rd amendment thanks to Trump. Here’s to round two lol
Might as well test their willingness to spit on another constitutional amendment.
A hilton worker in Dallas was fired for posting on Tik Tok that they were housing ICE agents and guests/workers should be careful about coming ot the hotel.
Fuck you Hilton Anatole. Literally never giving you a dime ever again.
(Also a *ton* of LGBTQ events used to use that hotel and you bet your ass they’re never getting another cent from the gays ever again.)
BRB. Leaving one star reviews for all Hilton properties in my area.
Never did i imagine a day when people would knoe what the fucking ugly step brother of a law the 3rd amendment was… but by god. This would be AMAZING to try. There’s like NO precedent for this shit
They already tried that, and the corporate suck ups punished the hotel that did it.
They would if they weren’t greedy corporations.
Won’t happen. The Federal govt will just start auditing them, and any tiny thing they find, they will fine the hotel/chain out of existence. Govt wields huge power to get businesses to do what they want.
It is fascinating how fast principles and ethics go out the window when it comes to money. That’s what America is all about.