Tempers are starting to boil within the Senate Republican Conference as disagreements arise over how to handle President Trump’s No. 1 legislative priority, the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE America) Act, which Trump wants to push through the Senate despite staunch Democratic opposition.
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), a leading proponent of the bill, angered some colleagues this week by suggesting on social media that Republican senators who don’t want to force Democrats to wage a “talking filibuster” to oppose the legislation should be ousted from the Senate.
“If your senators don’t support using the talking filibuster to pass the SAVE America Act, you might need to replace them,” Lee posted on the social platform X.
Romantic_Piscean on
Fine, force a talking filibuster. Sanders proposed reading the Epstein files so let’s line it up.
Accomplished-Head449 on
Take out the bigoted misogynistic fascist rhetoric
TheGoodKindOfPurple on
I hope that when a filibuster comes they just read as many unredacted Epstein files that name and shame powerful people as are available into the congressional record.
NoSwordfish6949 on
You save America by *not* passing it
crapshooter_on_swct on
If they wanted to save America, just resign.
Adreme on
Why do I suspect Mike Lee doesn’t understand the rules of the talking filibuster? With how it’s set up a group of Senators can easily keep it going indefinitely with no real difficulty.
SeiCalros on
i havent seen many people bringing it up – and i am sure the media is partly to blame – but why the hell are americans not constantly being reminded that they are handing over election security to a man who was arrested for trying to rig one?
returnofthecursed on
They continue to refuse to actually argue for the legislation itself. What are the positive benefits of this legislation? Why is it necessary? What are the costs? These are basic questions that Republicans refuse to address because the legislation has zero positive benefits – elections would remain just as secure as they already are, so it’s completely unnecessary. And the cost is incredibly steep, with the erosion of voting rights and the disenfranchisement of many legitimate voters.
thewrynoise on
Aww poor tempers. You make 146k$+ before the bribes.
What’s really rising is my fucking price of gas, electric bill, groceries and my anger at you spineless blowhards to stand up to Carrot Caligula and do SOMETHING to help Americans instead of celebrating us sending marines off to die for an illegal war.
GreenAnder on
It’s crazy to me that they think people will support this bill if they hear more about it. The shit in here would mean you can no longer register to vote online or by mail. It means voting by mail is basically done. There’s so much bad shit in here, I have to assume they’re just playing this up for Trump
Midibow_Dahonar on
Maybe a start in saving America would be locking up these pedophiles and their protectors! Instead they just talk about ways to cheat and stay in power.
GMEN999 on
The Save Trump act.
Big-D-TX on
It’s really called… “Save my GOP’s Ass”
Major corrections coming if House and Senate flip.
allnadream on
> Republicans from rural states like Montana argue that no-excuse mail-in voting is popular at home and hasn’t been linked to significant fraud. They argue that it would impose a hardship on voters living in remote areas to drive miles to vote in person, especially in November when snowstorms can pose serious obstacles.
LOL. I’ll be able to make it to the polls just fine, in liberal Southern California. There won’t be snow in my way.
To be more serious, there’s no way to “fix” this bill, that won’t make it obvious the actual purpose is voter suppression of certain groups.
zeusmeister on
There are numerous problems with this bill (well obviously, Trump favors it).
1. There is no grace period. It goes into affect as soon as Trump signs it, with no leeway or instruction for state and local governments to navigate the myriad of new rules it adds.
2. It contains zero money for these governments to actually make these changes.
3. It disenfranchises millions of voters, creating difficult and expensive roadblocks for them to obtain the necessary documents needed to register to vote. For some, it will be impossible due to lack of access to these same docs.
4. It “solves” a problem that doesn’t exist. Every single audit coming from research into voter fraud says that non-citizen voting is almost non-existent. Like, maybe 10 cases over 20 years of actual non-citizen voting in a random state. And they are caught, as the system was designed to do.
5. This will not stop non-citizens from voting, as it practically doesn’t exist in reality, but WILL stop hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of actual citizens from voting.
Edit: Oh, and 6. It’s unconstitutional, as none of the new documents needed are free, which almost certainly constitutes a poll tax, which is strictly prohibited by the 24th Amendment.
Which is probably their real goal.
Every dem Senator or house member should be screaming this during every second of debate on this bill.
Timeformayo on
If Democrats did a talking filibuster and *just* read the **released Epstein files** at a fairly *brisk* talking speed for 24 hours a day, to get through all of them **it would take 11 years**.
threehundredthousand on
They can’t govern. They just let Trump rule by decree.
Memitim on
Note that of all of the strategies that they are attempting to employ, making a bill that isn’t such an egregious pile of shit that it can’t pass on its own merits is not being considered. Republicans once again demonstrating that they hate America, and just want to toss it aside.
thezim2 on
At the end of the day the government is the one that issues and verifies citizenship for people. There should be no need other than a person’s name, last name, dob, and maybe ss# for the government to be able to confirm whether someone is a citizen or not.
If I want a passport or birth certificate those documents are issued to me by the government, which means that they have the full ability to verify that I am a citizen.
There is no reason to require someone to present a passport or birth certificate to the GOVERNMENT to prove citizenship.
IdahoDuncan on
Mid terms are coming and they are terrified.
uncoolcentral on
One of the many horrible things about this horrible act is that tens of millions of women who changed their name when they married would have to jump through all sorts of annoying bureaucratic hoops to prove that there is continuity between their birth name and their current name.
It’s one of the most anti-woman, anti-poor, anti-democracy things we’ve seen in a while.
Allegedly those who have updated names appearing on their passports won’t have to immediately jump through hoops. But how long would it be until they require people to jump through hoops to even get a passport?
The GOP will do everything they possibly can to prevent women, minorities, the poor, and progressives from voting. And they’re trying and succeeding at many other things to circumvent the vote. Truth and facts and justice do not matter to them at all.
tomgratz on
If the passes we will need an ID to vote and our driver’s license won’t cut it. You will need to have a passport. 50% of Americans do not have passports. Birth certificate will work as long as your name is still the same. Married women and anyone who has changed their name can’t vote. Disgusting anti voting bill in our democracy. Disgusting !
davegammelgard on
Passing that bill would cause chaos. Much of it is most likely unconstitutional and would be challenged immediately. Would it be enforced while being challenged? Would the Trump administration even care if it was found unconstitutional? How long would it take to get a final decision? It would be chaos.
DillBagner on
Have they considered maybe dropping it and getting reelected based on merit?
Galactic-Guardian404 on
Republicans know they are headed for an epic defeat in November with heavy rigging. Even normal levels of Republican election rigging won’t be enough this time.
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Tempers are starting to boil within the Senate Republican Conference as disagreements arise over how to handle President Trump’s No. 1 legislative priority, the Safeguard American Voter Eligibility (SAVE America) Act, which Trump wants to push through the Senate despite staunch Democratic opposition.
Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah), a leading proponent of the bill, angered some colleagues this week by suggesting on social media that Republican senators who don’t want to force Democrats to wage a “talking filibuster” to oppose the legislation should be ousted from the Senate.
“If your senators don’t support using the talking filibuster to pass the SAVE America Act, you might need to replace them,” Lee posted on the social platform X.
Fine, force a talking filibuster. Sanders proposed reading the Epstein files so let’s line it up.
Take out the bigoted misogynistic fascist rhetoric
I hope that when a filibuster comes they just read as many unredacted Epstein files that name and shame powerful people as are available into the congressional record.
You save America by *not* passing it
If they wanted to save America, just resign.
Why do I suspect Mike Lee doesn’t understand the rules of the talking filibuster? With how it’s set up a group of Senators can easily keep it going indefinitely with no real difficulty.
i havent seen many people bringing it up – and i am sure the media is partly to blame – but why the hell are americans not constantly being reminded that they are handing over election security to a man who was arrested for trying to rig one?
They continue to refuse to actually argue for the legislation itself. What are the positive benefits of this legislation? Why is it necessary? What are the costs? These are basic questions that Republicans refuse to address because the legislation has zero positive benefits – elections would remain just as secure as they already are, so it’s completely unnecessary. And the cost is incredibly steep, with the erosion of voting rights and the disenfranchisement of many legitimate voters.
Aww poor tempers. You make 146k$+ before the bribes.
What’s really rising is my fucking price of gas, electric bill, groceries and my anger at you spineless blowhards to stand up to Carrot Caligula and do SOMETHING to help Americans instead of celebrating us sending marines off to die for an illegal war.
It’s crazy to me that they think people will support this bill if they hear more about it. The shit in here would mean you can no longer register to vote online or by mail. It means voting by mail is basically done. There’s so much bad shit in here, I have to assume they’re just playing this up for Trump
Maybe a start in saving America would be locking up these pedophiles and their protectors! Instead they just talk about ways to cheat and stay in power.
The Save Trump act.
It’s really called… “Save my GOP’s Ass”
Major corrections coming if House and Senate flip.
> Republicans from rural states like Montana argue that no-excuse mail-in voting is popular at home and hasn’t been linked to significant fraud. They argue that it would impose a hardship on voters living in remote areas to drive miles to vote in person, especially in November when snowstorms can pose serious obstacles.
LOL. I’ll be able to make it to the polls just fine, in liberal Southern California. There won’t be snow in my way.
To be more serious, there’s no way to “fix” this bill, that won’t make it obvious the actual purpose is voter suppression of certain groups.
There are numerous problems with this bill (well obviously, Trump favors it).
1. There is no grace period. It goes into affect as soon as Trump signs it, with no leeway or instruction for state and local governments to navigate the myriad of new rules it adds.
2. It contains zero money for these governments to actually make these changes.
3. It disenfranchises millions of voters, creating difficult and expensive roadblocks for them to obtain the necessary documents needed to register to vote. For some, it will be impossible due to lack of access to these same docs.
4. It “solves” a problem that doesn’t exist. Every single audit coming from research into voter fraud says that non-citizen voting is almost non-existent. Like, maybe 10 cases over 20 years of actual non-citizen voting in a random state. And they are caught, as the system was designed to do.
5. This will not stop non-citizens from voting, as it practically doesn’t exist in reality, but WILL stop hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of actual citizens from voting.
Edit: Oh, and 6. It’s unconstitutional, as none of the new documents needed are free, which almost certainly constitutes a poll tax, which is strictly prohibited by the 24th Amendment.
Which is probably their real goal.
Every dem Senator or house member should be screaming this during every second of debate on this bill.
If Democrats did a talking filibuster and *just* read the **released Epstein files** at a fairly *brisk* talking speed for 24 hours a day, to get through all of them **it would take 11 years**.
They can’t govern. They just let Trump rule by decree.
Note that of all of the strategies that they are attempting to employ, making a bill that isn’t such an egregious pile of shit that it can’t pass on its own merits is not being considered. Republicans once again demonstrating that they hate America, and just want to toss it aside.
At the end of the day the government is the one that issues and verifies citizenship for people. There should be no need other than a person’s name, last name, dob, and maybe ss# for the government to be able to confirm whether someone is a citizen or not.
If I want a passport or birth certificate those documents are issued to me by the government, which means that they have the full ability to verify that I am a citizen.
There is no reason to require someone to present a passport or birth certificate to the GOVERNMENT to prove citizenship.
Mid terms are coming and they are terrified.
One of the many horrible things about this horrible act is that tens of millions of women who changed their name when they married would have to jump through all sorts of annoying bureaucratic hoops to prove that there is continuity between their birth name and their current name.
It’s one of the most anti-woman, anti-poor, anti-democracy things we’ve seen in a while.
Allegedly those who have updated names appearing on their passports won’t have to immediately jump through hoops. But how long would it be until they require people to jump through hoops to even get a passport?
The GOP will do everything they possibly can to prevent women, minorities, the poor, and progressives from voting. And they’re trying and succeeding at many other things to circumvent the vote. Truth and facts and justice do not matter to them at all.
If the passes we will need an ID to vote and our driver’s license won’t cut it. You will need to have a passport. 50% of Americans do not have passports. Birth certificate will work as long as your name is still the same. Married women and anyone who has changed their name can’t vote. Disgusting anti voting bill in our democracy. Disgusting !
Passing that bill would cause chaos. Much of it is most likely unconstitutional and would be challenged immediately. Would it be enforced while being challenged? Would the Trump administration even care if it was found unconstitutional? How long would it take to get a final decision? It would be chaos.
Have they considered maybe dropping it and getting reelected based on merit?
Republicans know they are headed for an epic defeat in November with heavy rigging. Even normal levels of Republican election rigging won’t be enough this time.