I am more concerned about Trump and Elon Musk invading our privacy than China.
AlternativePizza3391 on
The verge wants a subscription now, đ
Low_Discussion_9459 on
One step closer for allowing the USA to cut off the Internet from the rest of the world like Russia is currently doing since it also labels an informed populace potentially sparking a revolution a National Security threat that it must maintain power the same reason it’s also going to rig and cancel elections as well because it’s Revolution And Rebellion prevention if not the very existence of the Constitution itself already does that by putting out a Civic Mythology that we’re “already free”.
NeutralBias on
This is trade policy masquerading as security policy and is overall a bad thing for the US market. Like Chinese EVs, the US market is simply going to be shut out of options available in the rest of the world if this has its intended effect.
RoosterMedical on
The cost of a domestically manufactured router is likely to be astounding.
PapaGilbatron on
What better way to embed more technology to spy on its own population.
ToadP on
Ah, the Majority of Routers used by I.S.P. companies like Xfinity and Verizon are made outside of the U.S.A. Does that mean that future new installs won’t be happening? Or are they excluded because of Donations?
New-Anybody-6206 on
What is their definition of “made outside the US” in this context?
Over 90% of PCBs are manufactured or assembled outside the US. If all other operations are done in the US, is that sufficient?
What if my enclosure was designed by a European company? Or the metal/plastic for it sourced from another country? Or the firmware development? Or the manual, logo or promo materials?
etc.
LockNo2943 on
>While [the FCCâs Covered List](https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist) makes it sound like the US is banning *all* ârouters produced in a foreign country,â itâs defined a bit more narrowly than that. Itâs specifically banning âconsumer-grade routersâ as defined in [NIST Internal Report 8425A](https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2024/NIST.IR.8425A.pdf), which refers to ones âintended for residential use and can be installed by the customer.â
So it’s not even about protecting business or security since it only affects personal use by consumers.
hutthuttindabutt on
Release the Epstein files.
bugsyramone on
Y’all remember when the GoPs main talking point was ‘smaller government?’
Pepperidge Farms remembers…
modelthree on
Great. Router shortage coming in 2026.
Punning_Man on
Since this strategy worked so well for drones.Â
Cultbird on
Age verifications, router bans, IDs required for everything, we all see where this is going.
A surveillance state powered by government-controlled AI.
bigly911 on
The only approved routers, are Trump routers. Definitely not compromised routers, believe me.
jarchack on
Enshitiffication is getting out of hand
Ornery-Childhood1782 on
There are routers created in the US? That’s surprising to me
rhb4n8 on
Isn’t this all of them?
GestureArtist on
Well that’s fucking dumb. America is just fucking dumb.
benchcoat on
itâs a blackmail griftânon-US manufacturers keep selling in the US with a kickback to the Trump Crime Syndicate
from the article:
âNow, router makers need to A) secure a âconditional approvalâ that lets them keep getting new products cleared for US entryâ
so, another Trump tax passed on to you in order to line his pockets
Content-Fudge489 on
One more step in the technological regression of the US. Might as well put the Amish in charge.
stickerhighway on
Hmmm đ¤ can’t put my finger on why they would want to control the literal source of information for everyone.
Pressure on ISPs won’t be too far behind.
Asymmetrical_Square on
Fun fact. You can make your own router with things like pfSense/OPNsense and an old unused PC.
liftbikerun on
The irony of banning consumer routers made outside the US in the name of security while concurrently selling our state secrets to the highest bidder and installing Russian operatives in and around the White House is wild.
remote_001 on
âIt is not clear how simply moving production of routers domestically would make them safer. In the Volt Typhoon hack, Chinese state-sponsored hackers primarily targeted Cisco and Netgear routers, routers designed by US companies, according to the Department of Justice. Those US companies had stopped providing security updates to the specific targeted routers, because they had discontinued those products.â
So fucking stupid. đ¤Ś
Nearbyatom on
Isn’t that all routers then. What consumer level routers are made in the US? HECK, What consumer level electronics is produced in the US? we have American brands making them overseas now.
djuggler on
Si they can require back doors?
FizzyBeverage on
*Fucker acts like heâs gonna be in power for decades and live to see 130.* đ
Dude has 2 years left, being generous. All of 2028 is a campaign for the next a-hole.
Certain-Anxiety-6786 on
Sorry, do we make routers here?
IrrelevantLeprechaun on
More shit we didn’t ask for, didn’t want, and have exactly zero power to prevent or do anything about. I hate it here.
freexanarchy on
So like all of them
freexanarchy on
Oh I forgot about the bribes. Whoever pays the bribe still can sell in the US
zmunky on
That’s like all of them…… Dudes trying to ske us back to the dark ages
Memory_Less on
More state control is highly worrying. This is in line with some of the ways China uses their consumer routers for monitoring its citizens. This is incredibly worrisome. The noose is getting tighter.
SpiritualAd8998 on
They make consumer routers in the US?
slingshot91 on
Palantir-approved routers only.
egoVirus on
Boot lickers sure do love big governmentâŚ
PeterDTown on
> companies that have already gotten FCC radio authorization for a specific foreign-made product can continue to import that product.
So, basically the U.S. will just be stuck with the present day router offering while the rest of the world moves forward with new technologies? I guess thatâs certainly a strategy.
Enras on
Will Xfinity replace all of their routers/gateways?
livinginfutureworld on
They want to strong arm domestic router manufacturers and require government spying in domestic routers?
Nerd-19958 on
It would make sense to buy a new router now to avoid future price gouging on domestically-manufactured product.
Consumer Reports highly rated several ASUS routers; I use a Tuf Gaming AX-4200 which works well.
HurtFeeFeez on
Small government, freedom of choice and a free market economy you say?
TrailerTrashQueen on
so when we go to Tijuana for medication, we’re also picking up a couple routers?
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I am more concerned about Trump and Elon Musk invading our privacy than China.
The verge wants a subscription now, đ
One step closer for allowing the USA to cut off the Internet from the rest of the world like Russia is currently doing since it also labels an informed populace potentially sparking a revolution a National Security threat that it must maintain power the same reason it’s also going to rig and cancel elections as well because it’s Revolution And Rebellion prevention if not the very existence of the Constitution itself already does that by putting out a Civic Mythology that we’re “already free”.
This is trade policy masquerading as security policy and is overall a bad thing for the US market. Like Chinese EVs, the US market is simply going to be shut out of options available in the rest of the world if this has its intended effect.
The cost of a domestically manufactured router is likely to be astounding.
What better way to embed more technology to spy on its own population.
Ah, the Majority of Routers used by I.S.P. companies like Xfinity and Verizon are made outside of the U.S.A. Does that mean that future new installs won’t be happening? Or are they excluded because of Donations?
What is their definition of “made outside the US” in this context?
Over 90% of PCBs are manufactured or assembled outside the US. If all other operations are done in the US, is that sufficient?
What if my enclosure was designed by a European company? Or the metal/plastic for it sourced from another country? Or the firmware development? Or the manual, logo or promo materials?
etc.
>While [the FCCâs Covered List](https://www.fcc.gov/supplychain/coveredlist) makes it sound like the US is banning *all* ârouters produced in a foreign country,â itâs defined a bit more narrowly than that. Itâs specifically banning âconsumer-grade routersâ as defined in [NIST Internal Report 8425A](https://nvlpubs.nist.gov/nistpubs/ir/2024/NIST.IR.8425A.pdf), which refers to ones âintended for residential use and can be installed by the customer.â
So it’s not even about protecting business or security since it only affects personal use by consumers.
Release the Epstein files.
Y’all remember when the GoPs main talking point was ‘smaller government?’
Pepperidge Farms remembers…
Great. Router shortage coming in 2026.
Since this strategy worked so well for drones.Â
Age verifications, router bans, IDs required for everything, we all see where this is going.
A surveillance state powered by government-controlled AI.
The only approved routers, are Trump routers. Definitely not compromised routers, believe me.
Enshitiffication is getting out of hand
There are routers created in the US? That’s surprising to me
Isn’t this all of them?
Well that’s fucking dumb. America is just fucking dumb.
itâs a blackmail griftânon-US manufacturers keep selling in the US with a kickback to the Trump Crime Syndicate
from the article:
âNow, router makers need to A) secure a âconditional approvalâ that lets them keep getting new products cleared for US entryâ
so, another Trump tax passed on to you in order to line his pockets
One more step in the technological regression of the US. Might as well put the Amish in charge.
Hmmm đ¤ can’t put my finger on why they would want to control the literal source of information for everyone.
Pressure on ISPs won’t be too far behind.
Fun fact. You can make your own router with things like pfSense/OPNsense and an old unused PC.
The irony of banning consumer routers made outside the US in the name of security while concurrently selling our state secrets to the highest bidder and installing Russian operatives in and around the White House is wild.
âIt is not clear how simply moving production of routers domestically would make them safer. In the Volt Typhoon hack, Chinese state-sponsored hackers primarily targeted Cisco and Netgear routers, routers designed by US companies, according to the Department of Justice. Those US companies had stopped providing security updates to the specific targeted routers, because they had discontinued those products.â
So fucking stupid. đ¤Ś
Isn’t that all routers then. What consumer level routers are made in the US? HECK, What consumer level electronics is produced in the US? we have American brands making them overseas now.
Si they can require back doors?
*Fucker acts like heâs gonna be in power for decades and live to see 130.* đ
Dude has 2 years left, being generous. All of 2028 is a campaign for the next a-hole.
Sorry, do we make routers here?
More shit we didn’t ask for, didn’t want, and have exactly zero power to prevent or do anything about. I hate it here.
So like all of them
Oh I forgot about the bribes. Whoever pays the bribe still can sell in the US
That’s like all of them…… Dudes trying to ske us back to the dark ages
More state control is highly worrying. This is in line with some of the ways China uses their consumer routers for monitoring its citizens. This is incredibly worrisome. The noose is getting tighter.
They make consumer routers in the US?
Palantir-approved routers only.
Boot lickers sure do love big governmentâŚ
> companies that have already gotten FCC radio authorization for a specific foreign-made product can continue to import that product.
So, basically the U.S. will just be stuck with the present day router offering while the rest of the world moves forward with new technologies? I guess thatâs certainly a strategy.
Will Xfinity replace all of their routers/gateways?
They want to strong arm domestic router manufacturers and require government spying in domestic routers?
It would make sense to buy a new router now to avoid future price gouging on domestically-manufactured product.
Consumer Reports highly rated several ASUS routers; I use a Tuf Gaming AX-4200 which works well.
Small government, freedom of choice and a free market economy you say?
so when we go to Tijuana for medication, we’re also picking up a couple routers?
Are there any US built routers?