His job is to take the blame for the upcoming failure.
WinOdd7962 on
How do you fire a Vice President?
ElPlywood on
why did trump not let him know?
because incompetence?
because doesn’t give a shit?
because purposely left him out of the loop so he looked stupid?
because forgot?
why not all 4
OP_Skis_In_Jeans on
Lol @ Vance thinking that running as Trump’s stooge VP would actually benefit his subsequent political career instead of ending it.
Athleticsbaby on
>“I do have a message from Steve Witkoff,” Vance acknowledged awkwardly.
>“Wouldn’t you like to know the subject of this message?” Vance continued. “But no, uh, I need to read it first before I talk about it. But here’s, here’s … uh, what time is it in the United States right now?”
>The uncomfortable lapse became even more unsettling when a Reuters reporter urged Vance to properly read up before speaking with the press about his apparently misinformed analysis of the war.
I honestly don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this point. Both, I guess.
Colonel-Mooseknuckle on
*”Fellow Christians, everyone is watching us when we apologize for this man. Lord help us.”*
*”I’m a Never Trump guy.”*
*”My god, what an idiot.”*
*”America’s Hitler.”*
*”Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”*
*”I can’t stomach Trump.”*
*”Morally reprehensible human being.”*
-JD Vance
lingeringneutrophil on
He was advocating against the attack so I can he why and how he was left out
Sufficient-Eye-8883 on
Maybe it is so he does not get any crazy ideas about the 25th Amendment. After all, that would be probably his only chance of being president.
___YesNoOther on
Come on JD, get pissed. 25 him! Pretend he’s a couch!
Ok-Lets-Talk-It-Out on
I find it funny that Vance keeps getting tacked onto things as an afterthought. I think it’s basically a mix of having a fall guy and realizing they have to make it lol like he actually has some sort of impact on anything besides bumbling around.
Dude took 8 vacations in the first seven months of the new term. That’s not even including the travel he did to promote trumps agenda for five minutes and then spend multiple days sight seeing.
Absolutely worthless and is going to cost the US taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars in reupholstering costs for every cushion he’s fucked.
Edit: saw this in the AP News live thread; *The vice president attempted to dial the president in front of the crowd and first got an automated message saying the voicemail box wasn’t set up, to laughter from attendees. Soon after, he got Trump on the phone and put him on speaker for the crowd.*
Literally a laughingstock internationally.
all4whatnot on
Trump sent him away so he doesn’t get any thoughts about the 25th Amendment at this moment. And that doesn’t give me hope that this is just bluster.
rain_livy on
This is what happens when you have a deranged president making threats of genocide without consulting his own administration. Vance looked completely unprepared and out of the loop while Trump was literally threatening to end Iranian civilization by 8 p.m. The fact that our VP is learning about potential nuclear escalation from reporters instead of being briefed shows how chaotic this administration really is.
ultralightdude on
J.D. Pence
Ryan_e3p on
Mighty bold for anyone to assume there were plans.
writeinfreedom on
Stop giving him cover. We all knew of Trump’s attack plans because he broadcasted them every day. This article headline is trash. Remove the whole cabinet immediately, doesn’t anybody in D.C. have a College Hunks Hauling Junk franchise that can take out this disgusting armoire?
High_Contact_ on
Why is there never a video?
skoddy on
“In front of the president & his other advisers, Mr. Vance warned that the conflict could cause regional chaos & untold casualties, break apart the president’s political coalition & be seen as a betrayal by voters.”
-NYT
25th inc?
smurkederp25 on
JD Vance acting like he’s not complicit so he can come in as the voice of reason
citizenjones on
If you picture Trump as the wedge holding the door open for rats to get in, picture Vance as the one propping it open for the worst of silicon valley.
restore_democracy on
> “You did say that the military objectives of this war have been achieved. So could you help us understand why the president is still threatening to attack every bridge and every power plant in Iran?”
WafflesAreLove on
Vance destroyed any hopes of a political future by joining Trumps administration.
Responsible_Set_4990 on
It’s insane that Vance is overseas doing putin’s bidding while our president is talking about blowing up and entire country and its people. Someone needs to stop him immediately
Jimbo415650 on
this is actually a good thing. JD needs to organize the administration for the 25th amendment but JD just doofus will sit it out on the couch
RLewis8888 on
“plans”.
LOL
NobleGoose77 on
I refuse to believe there are any plans at all.
Guilty_Concept_3003 on
How many people realize that it’s always been about the rich against the rest of us. Trump?… stooge, Vance?… stooge, MAGA?… all stooges. It’s been going since people started bartering, and will continue until the rich are humbled or we all die. I don’t expect a humbling moment for the aristocracy.
yingyanghomie on
Trump has no plan. He follows his bacteria/shit filled gut. No longer term plan. Hes getting American soldiers killed.
aeropl3b on
The attack plan… threaten war crimes and genocide, hope the other side blinks, freak out at 8pm tonight that you either need to follow through with the threats and be ousted from every alliance in the globe except one…or lose every ounce of leverage left in negotiations with Iran and further become and international joke.
We won’t know what they will decide until they finally decide tonight. Here is to hoping there are enough military leaders with even an ounce of reason left to take control of this situation if needed.
morosco on
I have a hunch that Vance opposes the war, but is too weak and cowardly to express that or do anything about it. That’s why he’s been marginalized. The core Trump group wants to blow shit up and Vance is kind of a buzzkill in his lack of enthusiasm about it.
If Vance wants to lead the GOP going forward, now’s the time. Lead the 25th amendment efforts and seize control. He’d have lots of time to shape the presidency in his, still shitty, but less apocalyptic vision. But I don’t think he has that in him. He wasn’t drafted by Trump to show a spine.
VanguardAvenger on
Or, he pretended not to know.
If Trump actually carries out his threat (which he won’t, Trump and blustering are synonyms at this point) Vance seeming to have plausible deniablity about the whole thing is exactly why Republicans can convince people that replacing Trump with Vance really is going to be a meaningful change….Vance wasn’t involved in any of Trump’s insane shit.
aircooledJenkins on
>“The president of the United States is a man who recognizes leverage,” Vance said. “That if the Iranians want to exact a certain amount of pain, the United States has the ability to exact much, much greater pain.”
What pain are they extracting? They’re defending themselves from a bullshit invasion. If the US hadn’t started stomping all over Iran, there’d be no need for pain.
KnotSoSalty on
Until Dick Cheney it wasn’t uncommon for the VP to be completely out of the loop. Cheney installed his cronies all over the executive branch to prevent that exact scenario. Obama and Biden seemed to have a working relationship but Obama tended to use him like a cabinet member. Pence was a non-entity. Harris was stuck shepherding bills through the senate. Vance seems like a rouge actor.
natural_disaster0 on
Not buying it; they are trying to save face for when Trump takes a big L.
oicuvmch on
This is part of how they’re trying to separate JD Vance from Trump, because they’re gearing up to replace Trump with him.
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His job is to take the blame for the upcoming failure.
How do you fire a Vice President?
why did trump not let him know?
because incompetence?
because doesn’t give a shit?
because purposely left him out of the loop so he looked stupid?
because forgot?
why not all 4
Lol @ Vance thinking that running as Trump’s stooge VP would actually benefit his subsequent political career instead of ending it.
>“I do have a message from Steve Witkoff,” Vance acknowledged awkwardly.
>“Wouldn’t you like to know the subject of this message?” Vance continued. “But no, uh, I need to read it first before I talk about it. But here’s, here’s … uh, what time is it in the United States right now?”
>The uncomfortable lapse became even more unsettling when a Reuters reporter urged Vance to properly read up before speaking with the press about his apparently misinformed analysis of the war.
I honestly don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this point. Both, I guess.
*”Fellow Christians, everyone is watching us when we apologize for this man. Lord help us.”*
*”I’m a Never Trump guy.”*
*”My god, what an idiot.”*
*”America’s Hitler.”*
*”Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation’s highest office.”*
*”I can’t stomach Trump.”*
*”Morally reprehensible human being.”*
-JD Vance
He was advocating against the attack so I can he why and how he was left out
Maybe it is so he does not get any crazy ideas about the 25th Amendment. After all, that would be probably his only chance of being president.
Come on JD, get pissed. 25 him! Pretend he’s a couch!
I find it funny that Vance keeps getting tacked onto things as an afterthought. I think it’s basically a mix of having a fall guy and realizing they have to make it lol like he actually has some sort of impact on anything besides bumbling around.
Dude took 8 vacations in the first seven months of the new term. That’s not even including the travel he did to promote trumps agenda for five minutes and then spend multiple days sight seeing.
Absolutely worthless and is going to cost the US taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars in reupholstering costs for every cushion he’s fucked.
Edit: saw this in the AP News live thread; *The vice president attempted to dial the president in front of the crowd and first got an automated message saying the voicemail box wasn’t set up, to laughter from attendees. Soon after, he got Trump on the phone and put him on speaker for the crowd.*
Literally a laughingstock internationally.
Trump sent him away so he doesn’t get any thoughts about the 25th Amendment at this moment. And that doesn’t give me hope that this is just bluster.
This is what happens when you have a deranged president making threats of genocide without consulting his own administration. Vance looked completely unprepared and out of the loop while Trump was literally threatening to end Iranian civilization by 8 p.m. The fact that our VP is learning about potential nuclear escalation from reporters instead of being briefed shows how chaotic this administration really is.
J.D. Pence
Mighty bold for anyone to assume there were plans.
Stop giving him cover. We all knew of Trump’s attack plans because he broadcasted them every day. This article headline is trash. Remove the whole cabinet immediately, doesn’t anybody in D.C. have a College Hunks Hauling Junk franchise that can take out this disgusting armoire?
Why is there never a video?
“In front of the president & his other advisers, Mr. Vance warned that the conflict could cause regional chaos & untold casualties, break apart the president’s political coalition & be seen as a betrayal by voters.”
-NYT
25th inc?
JD Vance acting like he’s not complicit so he can come in as the voice of reason
If you picture Trump as the wedge holding the door open for rats to get in, picture Vance as the one propping it open for the worst of silicon valley.
> “You did say that the military objectives of this war have been achieved. So could you help us understand why the president is still threatening to attack every bridge and every power plant in Iran?”
Vance destroyed any hopes of a political future by joining Trumps administration.
It’s insane that Vance is overseas doing putin’s bidding while our president is talking about blowing up and entire country and its people. Someone needs to stop him immediately
this is actually a good thing. JD needs to organize the administration for the 25th amendment but JD just doofus will sit it out on the couch
“plans”.
LOL
I refuse to believe there are any plans at all.
How many people realize that it’s always been about the rich against the rest of us. Trump?… stooge, Vance?… stooge, MAGA?… all stooges. It’s been going since people started bartering, and will continue until the rich are humbled or we all die. I don’t expect a humbling moment for the aristocracy.
Trump has no plan. He follows his bacteria/shit filled gut. No longer term plan. Hes getting American soldiers killed.
The attack plan… threaten war crimes and genocide, hope the other side blinks, freak out at 8pm tonight that you either need to follow through with the threats and be ousted from every alliance in the globe except one…or lose every ounce of leverage left in negotiations with Iran and further become and international joke.
We won’t know what they will decide until they finally decide tonight. Here is to hoping there are enough military leaders with even an ounce of reason left to take control of this situation if needed.
I have a hunch that Vance opposes the war, but is too weak and cowardly to express that or do anything about it. That’s why he’s been marginalized. The core Trump group wants to blow shit up and Vance is kind of a buzzkill in his lack of enthusiasm about it.
If Vance wants to lead the GOP going forward, now’s the time. Lead the 25th amendment efforts and seize control. He’d have lots of time to shape the presidency in his, still shitty, but less apocalyptic vision. But I don’t think he has that in him. He wasn’t drafted by Trump to show a spine.
Or, he pretended not to know.
If Trump actually carries out his threat (which he won’t, Trump and blustering are synonyms at this point) Vance seeming to have plausible deniablity about the whole thing is exactly why Republicans can convince people that replacing Trump with Vance really is going to be a meaningful change….Vance wasn’t involved in any of Trump’s insane shit.
>“The president of the United States is a man who recognizes leverage,” Vance said. “That if the Iranians want to exact a certain amount of pain, the United States has the ability to exact much, much greater pain.”
What pain are they extracting? They’re defending themselves from a bullshit invasion. If the US hadn’t started stomping all over Iran, there’d be no need for pain.
Until Dick Cheney it wasn’t uncommon for the VP to be completely out of the loop. Cheney installed his cronies all over the executive branch to prevent that exact scenario. Obama and Biden seemed to have a working relationship but Obama tended to use him like a cabinet member. Pence was a non-entity. Harris was stuck shepherding bills through the senate. Vance seems like a rouge actor.
Not buying it; they are trying to save face for when Trump takes a big L.
This is part of how they’re trying to separate JD Vance from Trump, because they’re gearing up to replace Trump with him.