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  1. WorkersThesis on

    if he launches nukes at 8 pm tonight — and you still go to work tomorrow — and you still buy shit — if you still enable this regime and don’t begin a total and complete strike until he’s forced out of office — then this world is forever doomed and i’m convinced humanity will either be reduced to scattered hunter/gather tribes or become extinct within the next couple centuries.

  2. I kinda thought most of these orders were illegal since this war doesn’t have the legally required congressional approval…

  3. This is it, folks. Our country stands on the razor’s edge of integrity. I’d like to believe that Trump always chickens out, but the combination of rage, impotence, hubris and dementia may have created a perfect storm that will strip the United States of any claim to international respect we might have left.

  4. H-E-L-L-MaGGoT on

    Isn’t going to happen. Its naive of Americans to believe their country’s military has any sort of moral code, especially after the 100s of thousands of civilians they slaughtered in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Wake up! You are the world’s most dangerous terrorist organization.

  5. Competitive_Yam7702 on

    “reopen the strait or we will destroy you”, Screams trump red faced.

    “Its already open, just not to you and israel” – Says iran and The rest of the planet

  6. Duty-bound to say no. That’s the oath. Not loyalty to Trump. To the Constitution.

  7. Well this is awkward, over on r/Military they’re saying Veterans need to speak up on all this because active duty military cannot

  8. eatwellreadbooks on

    Key word is “retired.” When we hear this from active duty, I’ll pay attention.

  9. You know, when so many people were saying that simply voting for Democrats was a bad idea because they were no different than Republicans, I thought those people were morons.

    But, I have to hand it to them. They were right. Voting for Democrats is too hard. The best way to prevent all this is to rely on military officers to disobey the orders of the commander in chief in order to prevent a potential holocaust and likely world war.

    Voting for icky Democrats? Way too hard!

  10. HeatWaveToTheCrowd on

    This is why they purged military leaders who would ignore orders from grandpa.

  11. Radiant_Limit3334 on

    Head over to r/aviation and take a look at what was spotted flying over the UK. If anybody needs to reject orders it’s those pilots

  12. Northern_Ice_2501 on

    Should we play the Mark Kelly (and others) video once again? Perhaps on a loop.

  13. Duty-bound to say no. That’s the oath. Not loyalty to Trump. To the Constitution.

  14. All the ones who did got fired, so now we’re left with the true believer holy war cultist ones.

  15. no-more-depravity on

    # Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say

    [https://www.**scientificamerican**.com/article/iran-was-nowhere-close-to-a-nuclear-bomb-experts-say/](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/iran-was-nowhere-close-to-a-nuclear-bomb-experts-say/)

    Trump lied us into a useless war, just like GW Bush.

    >“Obviously, the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake, all right?” Trump thundered when asked about his call for then-President George W. Bush to be **impeached**. “They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none, and they knew there were none.”

    Here’s what Trump said about Obama (who negotiated a deal with Iran that actually prevented them from working on nuclear weapons):

    >“Our president will start a war with Iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. He’s weak and he’s ineffective.”

    Please, God, save the United States of America from the Christian Conservatives.

  16. mangoserpent on

    The Armed Forces are not going to revolt against Trump’s orders. No matter what Trump decides to do they will obey it is a naive fantasy to think they would act for some theoretical greater good. That America if it ever existed is gone.

  17. Of course military leaders are duty-bound to reject illegal orders – that’s how it is in any country on the planet. The differences only arise when looking at what makes an order illegal. Here the US stands out as one of a few countries where the supreme leader himself ultimately decides which of his orders are illegal…

  18. FlowRiderBob on

    Why are people jumping to nukes? The US is perfectly capable of committing mass war crimes with conventional weapons.

  19. TechnicalScheme385 on

    As a reminder, Mark Kelly and Democrats are the first to remind our Military of their obligations. Let’s remind ourselves the Pete tried to demote, and prosecute Mark Kelly for saying exactly this. Warning our soldiers that they do have a choice.

  20. Nooneknows882 on

    I think they’ve removed many of the generals and other high ranking dissenters.

  21. Hasn’t the US military already been doing a lot based on illegal orders? Seems like it’s all talk and very few top officials actually stay true to their duty.

  22. The military isn’t even willing to stop ICE from rounding up the spouses of service members. There’s no way they’ll ever stand up to Trump to, for example, stop a bunch of foreign brown people from getting nuked.

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