‘How do we 25th Amendment his ass?’ Alex Jones joins calls to remove Trump from office over Iran threats

All the voices that helped to put him in power are turning on him now. It’s a start, but I will never forgive these douchebags for how they influenced this election.

Your crazies are turning on you, Trump. Your grifters are starting to look for a life raft.

When Alex Jones, a scumbag who said Sandy Hook was a hoax, is calling for the 25th, you done fucked up.

If Trump uses nukes then he should 100% be impeached.  

All these right wing extremest will be back to defending him in a few days. They will fall in line, they always do

Only JD Vance can begin the 25A talks, and then he needs more than half of Trump’s cabinet members to agree. And then you need a 2/3 vote in favor of removal by both the House and Senate. So, the 25A talk is not happening.

For some reason it doesn’t feel as good as I thought it would, to sit here and watch myself be right about everything. Too bad the world had to burn. Fuck all these people. The Russian money and validation sure was flowing and everyone was high on MAGA, now it’s all “who could have known”. Fuckin losers

25thA: The Vice President and a majority of the Cabinet can declare the President unable to serve. The VP becomes Acting President. If the President contests this, Congress decides the issue, requiring a two-thirds vote in both houses for the VP to continue as Acting President

Never gonna happen

I still don’t care what Alex Jones’ opinion is for anything. He means nothing to me.

You would need:

1) JD Vance to break with Trump. That alone is an enormous hurdle.

2) You would then need a majority of the principal officers of the executive departments, which is usually understood as 8 of the 15 Cabinet secretaries, to join him. There is still legal ambiguity around whether acting secretaries would count, so the real pool could be narrower than people assume.

3) Even that would only be the beginning. If Trump contested the declaration, Congress would have up to 21 days to decide the issue, and it would take a two-thirds vote in both the House and Senate to keep Vance as Acting President. Otherwise, Trump would resume office.

That means Section 4 is not really a “Cabinet revolt” mechanism. It is a Vice President break, plus a Cabinet break, plus a congressional supermajority saying the President is unwell enough to enact his duties.

With that in mind, the real question is not just who might oppose Trump on Iran. The question is: which Cabinet members have loyalties or institutional commitments outside of Trump personally, and might therefore be imaginable in a genuine incapacity scenario?

Here is my ranking, from most plausible to least plausible:

1) Lori Chavez-DeRemer – Secretary of Labor
She seems like the strongest candidate on this list because she has a more independent political profile than most Trump Cabinet picks. Her labor and union-friendly background makes her look more like an America First labor populist than a pure MAGA loyalist. If anyone in the Cabinet has a political identity that is not fully reducible to Trump, it may be her. She still would not move over policy disagreement alone, but she feels more plausible than most in a true incapacity scenario.

2) Scott Bessent – Secretary of the Treasury
Bessent’s background in finance and macro investing makes him one of the clearest order-and-stability figures in the Cabinet. Treasury is tied directly to confidence, continuity, and market functioning. If a crisis started to look less like turbulence and more like actual executive breakdown, he is one of the people most likely to see the danger quickly.

3) RFK Jr. – Secretary of Health and Human Services
RFK Jr. is the biggest wildcard. He has long-standing commitments and political instincts that predate Trump, which makes him less predictable than a standard administration loyalist. At the same time, he is now deeply tied to the administration’s health agenda, so he is not really an outsider anymore. That makes him plausible as a break point, but more as an unpredictable independent actor than as a steady institutionalist.

4) Doug Burgum – Secretary of the Interior
Burgum’s CEO and governor background makes him easy to read as someone who values competence, order, and business stability. But I think the CEO argument can be overstated. He has also become deeply integrated into Trump’s governing project. So while he may dislike chaos, that does not necessarily make him likely to sign onto Section 4 unless the situation had clearly crossed into actual incapacity.

5) Chris Wright – Secretary of Energy
Wright has some of the same CEO-technocrat qualities as Burgum, which could make him sensitive to instability. But his public role has been tightly aligned with Trump’s energy agenda from the beginning. That makes him feel more like a mission-aligned operator than an independent constitutional breaker. I would put him in the “possible, but only at a very high threshold” tier.

6) Sean Duffy – Secretary of Transportation
Duffy’s department is operational and competence-heavy, which could make him more sensitive to dysfunction than a culture-war Cabinet member. But politically, he still reads more as a partisan-aligned executor than an internal dissenter. I could imagine him concluding that things were chaotic; I have a much harder time imagining him becoming an early Section 4 signer unless the case became overwhelming.

7) Marco Rubio – Secretary of State
A lot of people want to place Rubio higher because of his 2016 history with Trump, but on Iran he looks less like a latent anti-escalation dissenter and more like a current validator of Trump’s foreign policy. That makes him harder to imagine as a likely break point.

8) Doug Collins – Secretary of Veterans Affairs
Collins strikes me as one of the least likely names on this list. Even if he personally cared about the costs of war, he still reads more as a loyalty-heavy Trump ally than as an independent institutional counterweight. I would assume he would require overwhelming and undeniable evidence of incapacity before even considering Section 4.

Bottom line:
The biggest obstacle is still not finding eight people who dislike escalation. The biggest obstacle is finding JD Vance plus eight Cabinet secretaries who are willing to say Trump is actually unable to discharge the office, and then sustaining that claim through a two-thirds vote in both chambers of Congress. That is why most Section 4 scenarios online are much weaker than they sound. They are usually really arguments for internal dissent, not arguments for constitutional incapacity.

Yeah, Alex, you need to fuck all the way off. Pay off your settlement and disappear.

We’ve been trying to convince you fucking people for a decade

Just to be clear, the 25th is NEVER going to be enacted during a Trump Presidency. It requires the Vice President and the majority of Trump’s hand picked cabinet. Then, if Trump wants to fight it, the decision goes to Congress where a two thirds majority is required. If Donald Trump took a shit on the Resolute desk live on t.v. it still wouldn’t happen.

Fuck you, dude. This is just as much your fault. Millions of us warned you about this.

Apparently, Trump is even crazier than gay frogs.

He doesn’t get the privilege of asking for this. He contributed to trumps expansion of power

Apparently, it’s no longer fun to be MAGA.