Both Chuck Schumer and Hakeem jeffries are unfit to lead the party. They need to pave way for the younger leadership.
Brokkyn2024 on
LMAO… “reluctant”… most of the leadership was around when they impeached him twice before. And guess what happened… Republicans wouldn’t convict him and he was elected back into office.
Let’s talk again if we give them enough power to actually make it stick.
dominiond66 on
I would spend more time building the foundation of the Democratic Party like endorsing Universal Healthcare. Approval ratings for Democrats are low; even lower than Republicans!
The public is demanding a party that addresses their deep concerns not just standard combative politics. Yes, Trump should be impeached and arrested for gross corruption, but working-class families are struggling and looking for a party totally dedicated to their needs. That must be the Democratic Party. Time to define and promote the party and their policy priorities like UHC, raising the minimum wage, regulations to contain AI … etc.
AdCorrect819 on
When both the Senate and House are controlled by Republicans, how do you expect an impeachment to proceed? Come back when Democrats retake the house.
Null_Ref_Error on
Democrats once again being treated like the only ones with agency. You realize they have no power to do this right? Republicans could have had him out months ago.
iKangaeru on
Right. Let’s blame Dems and ignore the fact that impeaching Trump and removing him from office requires a majority of Republican votes in the House and 60 votes in the Senate – meaning all 47 Dems and 13 MAGAs. It won’t happen until those cowards grow spines.
AiMwithoutBoT on
No wonder Democrats are constantly losing. They are stuck so much in their old ways that they won’t make space for the future. If democrats ever want to get back into power they need to replace the old.
Patsanon1212 on
Their concerns are about getting pigeonholed in the futility of impeachment, and that taking the oxygen away from other areas where the spotlight is bad for Trump. Likely, they are also concerned about an impeachment giving Trump somewhat of a lifeline as he always does well when his claims of persecution have a little more “weight” to them. Anyone here want to actually have a think about these reasons or are we just gonna do the same circlejerk about the Bailieys and AIPAC Shakur?
GogetaSama420 on
“If you come for the king, you better not miss”
Edit: a misfire in impeachment (which is guaranteed now because we don’t control either chamber of congress) could make things worse. If you want to impeach this fascist, you gotta make sure to vote blue in the midterms and encourage as many people as you can to do so. There’s no other road to impeach .
CanaDoug420 on
Weird because they voted to impeach him twice already and nothing happened. It’s almost like they aren’t the ones blocking it and its the 100% of the GOP voting against it that is stopping it.
SurroundTiny on
Impeach away. It will never make it to the House floor for a vote
gdex86 on
Impeachment is a useless political theater move. There is no way it gets past the senate so it does nothing. Id rather they be focused on stuff like the war ppwer resolution which has the possibility of getting enough detectors in the senate to actually do something.
Built-in-Light on
They don’t want to energize his base. Nothing fucks the midterms for republicans more than having this clown playing offense all day.
Ornery-Ticket834 on
If they want to impeach Trump get some Republican co-sponsors. If you can’t get any then you know exactly where it’s headed.
airbear13 on
I mean he obviously needs to be impeached again, but we don’t want to wast political capital on another futile attempt – it needs to succeed this time. For that, timing is everything because we need to make sure the votes are there. If the votes aren’t there before midterms (likely), then Dems need to make sure that the midterms are free and fair; they’re likely to win big and can pursue impeachment for real afterward.
SpaceDudeTaco on
Comments here remind me no one understands how the system actually works.
Inevitable-Toe-6272 on
The article is a bit manipulative. It’s written like the democrats are on charge, and they have the majority in the house.
VanceKelley on
Unless 20 GOP Senators have indicated they are willing to convict trump another impeachment will not remove him from office.
I have not hear a single GOP Senator indicate they would convict him.
prosfromdover on
Until the midterms all they can do is find creative ways to spotlight the his bullshit. Laying out the case for the 25th amendment seems the smart way. List the evidence.
IvanDrake on
Dems don’t have the votes, so the point is moot
amkosh on
If you want Trump impeached then work to get 67 democrat senators who will vote to convict. If we can’t then it’s useless to try. And if we had that I’d argue it’s better to use the session time to undo Trump’s crap rather then get Vance as POTUS
Groftsan on
I actually agree with them. Nothing happens when the Dems are considered partisan. But, they would, to a person, support any impeachment action that was initiated by a Republican. That’s what needs to happen. It can’t come from the dems or Trump will be able to use anti-dem sentiment to weasel out of it again.
nimalcrackers on
(*They are correct that impeachment with the current House and Senate makeup is a pointless and performative exercise that wont do anything but sap energy that’s better spent elsewhere, but nobody wants to be caught dead siding with Dem leadership so we have to pretend to be angry…*)
PluotFinnegan_IV on
Hot, unpopular, take, but impeachment is a waste of time until Republicans are also on board. Otherwise it just gives fresh ammo to Trump and his loonies to point at Democrats and reframe things to a more favorable place.
Trump is hurting himself way more than impeachment could with Iran and the Epstein Files. The old adage “Never interrupt your opponent while they are making a mistake” is spot on here. And again, impeachment is useless w/o some Republican support.
Cactusfan86 on
Who gives a shit? Until democrats take the house it’s meaningless. Even if they take the house without the senate it’s performative. I’m more concerned about removing these two clowns for their sins far graver than a doomed impeachment crusade
TJaySteno1 on
What do you want them to do? Can they even call a vote on impeachment when they don’t control the House? Even if they can, it would fail again in the Senate. Why are we insisting on empty performative gestures?
EnvironmentalBug5525 on
Can we start by impeaching Jeffries and Schumer FIRST?
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Those two need to be out of leadership as well.
Both Chuck Schumer and Hakeem jeffries are unfit to lead the party. They need to pave way for the younger leadership.
LMAO… “reluctant”… most of the leadership was around when they impeached him twice before. And guess what happened… Republicans wouldn’t convict him and he was elected back into office.
Let’s talk again if we give them enough power to actually make it stick.
I would spend more time building the foundation of the Democratic Party like endorsing Universal Healthcare. Approval ratings for Democrats are low; even lower than Republicans!
The public is demanding a party that addresses their deep concerns not just standard combative politics. Yes, Trump should be impeached and arrested for gross corruption, but working-class families are struggling and looking for a party totally dedicated to their needs. That must be the Democratic Party. Time to define and promote the party and their policy priorities like UHC, raising the minimum wage, regulations to contain AI … etc.
When both the Senate and House are controlled by Republicans, how do you expect an impeachment to proceed? Come back when Democrats retake the house.
Democrats once again being treated like the only ones with agency. You realize they have no power to do this right? Republicans could have had him out months ago.
Right. Let’s blame Dems and ignore the fact that impeaching Trump and removing him from office requires a majority of Republican votes in the House and 60 votes in the Senate – meaning all 47 Dems and 13 MAGAs. It won’t happen until those cowards grow spines.
No wonder Democrats are constantly losing. They are stuck so much in their old ways that they won’t make space for the future. If democrats ever want to get back into power they need to replace the old.
Their concerns are about getting pigeonholed in the futility of impeachment, and that taking the oxygen away from other areas where the spotlight is bad for Trump. Likely, they are also concerned about an impeachment giving Trump somewhat of a lifeline as he always does well when his claims of persecution have a little more “weight” to them. Anyone here want to actually have a think about these reasons or are we just gonna do the same circlejerk about the Bailieys and AIPAC Shakur?
“If you come for the king, you better not miss”
Edit: a misfire in impeachment (which is guaranteed now because we don’t control either chamber of congress) could make things worse. If you want to impeach this fascist, you gotta make sure to vote blue in the midterms and encourage as many people as you can to do so. There’s no other road to impeach .
Weird because they voted to impeach him twice already and nothing happened. It’s almost like they aren’t the ones blocking it and its the 100% of the GOP voting against it that is stopping it.
Impeach away. It will never make it to the House floor for a vote
Impeachment is a useless political theater move. There is no way it gets past the senate so it does nothing. Id rather they be focused on stuff like the war ppwer resolution which has the possibility of getting enough detectors in the senate to actually do something.
They don’t want to energize his base. Nothing fucks the midterms for republicans more than having this clown playing offense all day.
If they want to impeach Trump get some Republican co-sponsors. If you can’t get any then you know exactly where it’s headed.
I mean he obviously needs to be impeached again, but we don’t want to wast political capital on another futile attempt – it needs to succeed this time. For that, timing is everything because we need to make sure the votes are there. If the votes aren’t there before midterms (likely), then Dems need to make sure that the midterms are free and fair; they’re likely to win big and can pursue impeachment for real afterward.
Comments here remind me no one understands how the system actually works.
The article is a bit manipulative. It’s written like the democrats are on charge, and they have the majority in the house.
Unless 20 GOP Senators have indicated they are willing to convict trump another impeachment will not remove him from office.
I have not hear a single GOP Senator indicate they would convict him.
Until the midterms all they can do is find creative ways to spotlight the his bullshit. Laying out the case for the 25th amendment seems the smart way. List the evidence.
Dems don’t have the votes, so the point is moot
If you want Trump impeached then work to get 67 democrat senators who will vote to convict. If we can’t then it’s useless to try. And if we had that I’d argue it’s better to use the session time to undo Trump’s crap rather then get Vance as POTUS
I actually agree with them. Nothing happens when the Dems are considered partisan. But, they would, to a person, support any impeachment action that was initiated by a Republican. That’s what needs to happen. It can’t come from the dems or Trump will be able to use anti-dem sentiment to weasel out of it again.
(*They are correct that impeachment with the current House and Senate makeup is a pointless and performative exercise that wont do anything but sap energy that’s better spent elsewhere, but nobody wants to be caught dead siding with Dem leadership so we have to pretend to be angry…*)
Hot, unpopular, take, but impeachment is a waste of time until Republicans are also on board. Otherwise it just gives fresh ammo to Trump and his loonies to point at Democrats and reframe things to a more favorable place.
Trump is hurting himself way more than impeachment could with Iran and the Epstein Files. The old adage “Never interrupt your opponent while they are making a mistake” is spot on here. And again, impeachment is useless w/o some Republican support.
Who gives a shit? Until democrats take the house it’s meaningless. Even if they take the house without the senate it’s performative. I’m more concerned about removing these two clowns for their sins far graver than a doomed impeachment crusade
What do you want them to do? Can they even call a vote on impeachment when they don’t control the House? Even if they can, it would fail again in the Senate. Why are we insisting on empty performative gestures?
Can we start by impeaching Jeffries and Schumer FIRST?