If only blood oxygen level was something that you could check…
…oh wait, you can and this failure is absolutely shameful
Successful-League840 on
There’s only one solution… Vote Reform to Privatise the NHS. Then she would never have been able to afford going to the hospital in the first place.
Problem solved!
Silchas79 on
Private works fantastically for Dentists. Often going private can be of great benefit and isn’t as expensive as people think. I don’t see why this cannot apply to hospital care too. It’s just a horse the left like to flog to frighten people that the big bad right wing are coming for your hospitals.
Moody_Immortal_1 on
A news article about how they will use this as a “Learning experience/tool” in 5-4-3-2……
DrFrankHaematuria on
I am a doctor.
This would have been, at least in part, because she was a young woman. A young, breathless woman is the classic case presentation of an anxiety attack. That archetype is drilled into us. Medicine involves a lot of pattern recognition and this is the unfortunate consequence of that.
Women in pain are too often dismissed as anxious or exaggerating.
IceGripe on
My local hospital.
It has a bad reputation.
The last time I was in A&E and old woman, who they were supposed to be watching, got out of bed and fell over and died.
After she was removed the other staff was helping the incompetent one make up a story to write in the report.
Mad_Mark90 on
This article suggests that she wasn’t seen by a doctor until she was critical enough to go to high care. Until then it only mentions nurses who can’t typically prescribe things like IV fluids, unless they’re ANPs (advanced nurse practitioners). ANPs are more and more frequently used to replace doctors on their rotas despite explicitly not being medically trained.
It isn’t clear from the article but “she’s not that unwell, just a bit tachy and her sats aren’t that bad, probably just a panic attack” is an error to get trained not to make if you’re trained properly. Next time you’re seeing someone for a medical problem make sure you check their job role and ask if they’re a doctor if that’s not clear.
metalbox69 on
Sounds like triage by vibes. Hopefully this is rare ( good treatment doesn’t make news headlines) but I endured similar negativity from a nurse when I had an infection that was on the verge of sepsis. Nurse did nothing until I started fitting.
charlibeau on
The cost of PFI ‘initiatives’ and underfunding,
A deliberate gov’t failure and profits passing into private hands.
Most hospitals pay over half their budget to PFI loans. We’re being robbed
PinacoladaBunny on
Oldham A&E is absolutely dire. My husband was admitted via ambulance, they gave him aspirin which he’s allergic to (and had a bright wristband they’d put on him to alert for it). They didn’t believe he was in the level of pain he was actually in, physically manhandled him to force him to sit and stand, then discharged him at 3am without any checks. He’d ruptured discs in his back.. it’s left permanent damage. 🤦♀️
One of my colleagues was a young woman in her 20s, admitted there via ambulance with a ruptured appendix. Didn’t believe her, said there was nothing wrong, sent her home. Her mum went ballistic and took her to another A&E who were horrified. She had sepsis from peritonitis, ended up with an abdomen full of drains to try and save her life.
I had the misfortune of surgery at Oldham too. It was a horrendous experience, I refused to go back there for anything. Northern Care Alliance is in a mess, it ranks poorly in the UK trusts and is under review. CQC says ‘requires improvement’.
A patient like this woman, with a history of pulmonary embolism, should not have been treated like a hypochondriac when coming into A&E with poor sats and breathing difficulties.
turkishhousefan on
It’s tyool 2026 and we’re still doing “Have a lie down, love, you’re hysterical.”
jasilucy on
Disgraceful. I hope the paramedic gets the book thrown at them by the HCPC and all the other staff that are complicit in this.
Once again, it’s a female. I rarely see tragedies such as these caused to a male. I’m not saying they don’t exist, it’s just more rife in the female population. I’m sick of it.
Vixxxy-C2G on
I was taken to A&E by ambulance in December 2019. My sats at home were in the low 80s but I was still pink and seemingly coping. The hospital took one look at me and shoved my trolley into CDU so not even majors. They gave me an oxygen mask but I was not coping and beginning to panic. The staff ignored me because I think they thought i was being dramatic. I eventually ripped my oxygen mask and screamed for someone to help me. A nurse came over and looked at my sats which were now in the low 70s, she asked a dr what to do and he said ‘if that’s her REAL sats, move her to resus’. Well they were indeed my real sats!! I was taken to resus, a peri arrest call was put out and I was swamped with drs and nurses. I don’t really remember much else from there. My last memory is telling them to do they everything they could for me because I have children before they intubated me and took me to ITU. I spent a month on ITU on a ventilator, in a coma. I wasn’t expected to survive but against all odds I did. So yes, they don’t take women seriously, they didn’t take me seriously when I was in respiratory failure. The ITU staff were fantastic to me, my family and my friends and I owe them my life. The A&E staff however……
I’m a radiographer in the NHS and I’m sick of working with people that don’t care!! If you don’t like other humans and you don’t like caring for vulnerable, unwell people, DON’T train in a caring profession.
The NHS can be excellent but I strongly believe being able to advocate for myself helped saved my life. Not every patient is in a position to do that though.
Lopsided-Muffin9805 on
THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!!!
May 2012 and I had had 2 kids previous blood clots within the last 10 days (I had a baby)
I went in with severe back pain. It hurt so bad to breathe. Dr took one look at me with such disdain and he told me pretty much that I was having a panic attack. That I just needed to calm down and I would leave
Hours went by and he would see me periodically and he would say that I was being dramatic and I was anxious and that I was having a panic attack
As they hooked me up to machines, I went blue and suddenly thought and felt like I had an elephant sat on my chest and it was really sudden even the nurse panicked and she went running to get the Doctor?!? because I apparently did go completely blue
The doctor again came in. He was a very young man maybe in his 20s and told me that I was just being silly and that I was to go home because they would refuse to treat me they’re being so dramatic.
I left, and as I left, I collapse into a corridor. Turns out I had massive bilateral primary embolisms and nearly died, but fortunately a consultant had come to see me and he saved my life
Hot-Frosting-1192 on
People need to be shown this shit every time they badger in about how good the NHS is.
ununpentium89 on
It does not surprise me. Medical misogyny in action. Women are always told we are over reacting, never genuinely unwell. I nearly died due to anaphylaxis during an operation, and a male mental health nurse later told me I brought it on myself and it was just a “severe panic attack”. Sure, you can consciously bring about a panic attack while you are under a general anaesthetic…
TheMetreFajita on
Imagine dying with people rolling thier eyes at you.
fillemagique on
Every time I have my vitals checked, my oxygen sits at about 91-93 and every time they make me hyperventilate to get the number to the correct one and ignore me saying that I can’t do that constantly so it’s always low, my watch says it, my home monitor says it and theirs say it until they make me do that, totally ignoring that it sits low in the first place and I’ve had an xray with “nodules” that was never rechecked as it was taken at the beginning of lockdown and now it’s buried in notes so no one will listen.
I imagine they made this girl do the same hyperventilation shit just so they can write numbers down that make it look not like an emergency that they should be treating.
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If only blood oxygen level was something that you could check…
…oh wait, you can and this failure is absolutely shameful
There’s only one solution… Vote Reform to Privatise the NHS. Then she would never have been able to afford going to the hospital in the first place.
Problem solved!
Private works fantastically for Dentists. Often going private can be of great benefit and isn’t as expensive as people think. I don’t see why this cannot apply to hospital care too. It’s just a horse the left like to flog to frighten people that the big bad right wing are coming for your hospitals.
A news article about how they will use this as a “Learning experience/tool” in 5-4-3-2……
I am a doctor.
This would have been, at least in part, because she was a young woman. A young, breathless woman is the classic case presentation of an anxiety attack. That archetype is drilled into us. Medicine involves a lot of pattern recognition and this is the unfortunate consequence of that.
Women in pain are too often dismissed as anxious or exaggerating.
My local hospital.
It has a bad reputation.
The last time I was in A&E and old woman, who they were supposed to be watching, got out of bed and fell over and died.
After she was removed the other staff was helping the incompetent one make up a story to write in the report.
This article suggests that she wasn’t seen by a doctor until she was critical enough to go to high care. Until then it only mentions nurses who can’t typically prescribe things like IV fluids, unless they’re ANPs (advanced nurse practitioners). ANPs are more and more frequently used to replace doctors on their rotas despite explicitly not being medically trained.
It isn’t clear from the article but “she’s not that unwell, just a bit tachy and her sats aren’t that bad, probably just a panic attack” is an error to get trained not to make if you’re trained properly. Next time you’re seeing someone for a medical problem make sure you check their job role and ask if they’re a doctor if that’s not clear.
Sounds like triage by vibes. Hopefully this is rare ( good treatment doesn’t make news headlines) but I endured similar negativity from a nurse when I had an infection that was on the verge of sepsis. Nurse did nothing until I started fitting.
The cost of PFI ‘initiatives’ and underfunding,
A deliberate gov’t failure and profits passing into private hands.
Most hospitals pay over half their budget to PFI loans. We’re being robbed
Oldham A&E is absolutely dire. My husband was admitted via ambulance, they gave him aspirin which he’s allergic to (and had a bright wristband they’d put on him to alert for it). They didn’t believe he was in the level of pain he was actually in, physically manhandled him to force him to sit and stand, then discharged him at 3am without any checks. He’d ruptured discs in his back.. it’s left permanent damage. 🤦♀️
One of my colleagues was a young woman in her 20s, admitted there via ambulance with a ruptured appendix. Didn’t believe her, said there was nothing wrong, sent her home. Her mum went ballistic and took her to another A&E who were horrified. She had sepsis from peritonitis, ended up with an abdomen full of drains to try and save her life.
I had the misfortune of surgery at Oldham too. It was a horrendous experience, I refused to go back there for anything. Northern Care Alliance is in a mess, it ranks poorly in the UK trusts and is under review. CQC says ‘requires improvement’.
A patient like this woman, with a history of pulmonary embolism, should not have been treated like a hypochondriac when coming into A&E with poor sats and breathing difficulties.
It’s tyool 2026 and we’re still doing “Have a lie down, love, you’re hysterical.”
Disgraceful. I hope the paramedic gets the book thrown at them by the HCPC and all the other staff that are complicit in this.
Once again, it’s a female. I rarely see tragedies such as these caused to a male. I’m not saying they don’t exist, it’s just more rife in the female population. I’m sick of it.
I was taken to A&E by ambulance in December 2019. My sats at home were in the low 80s but I was still pink and seemingly coping. The hospital took one look at me and shoved my trolley into CDU so not even majors. They gave me an oxygen mask but I was not coping and beginning to panic. The staff ignored me because I think they thought i was being dramatic. I eventually ripped my oxygen mask and screamed for someone to help me. A nurse came over and looked at my sats which were now in the low 70s, she asked a dr what to do and he said ‘if that’s her REAL sats, move her to resus’. Well they were indeed my real sats!! I was taken to resus, a peri arrest call was put out and I was swamped with drs and nurses. I don’t really remember much else from there. My last memory is telling them to do they everything they could for me because I have children before they intubated me and took me to ITU. I spent a month on ITU on a ventilator, in a coma. I wasn’t expected to survive but against all odds I did. So yes, they don’t take women seriously, they didn’t take me seriously when I was in respiratory failure. The ITU staff were fantastic to me, my family and my friends and I owe them my life. The A&E staff however……
I’m a radiographer in the NHS and I’m sick of working with people that don’t care!! If you don’t like other humans and you don’t like caring for vulnerable, unwell people, DON’T train in a caring profession.
The NHS can be excellent but I strongly believe being able to advocate for myself helped saved my life. Not every patient is in a position to do that though.
THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!!!
May 2012 and I had had 2 kids previous blood clots within the last 10 days (I had a baby)
I went in with severe back pain. It hurt so bad to breathe. Dr took one look at me with such disdain and he told me pretty much that I was having a panic attack. That I just needed to calm down and I would leave
Hours went by and he would see me periodically and he would say that I was being dramatic and I was anxious and that I was having a panic attack
As they hooked me up to machines, I went blue and suddenly thought and felt like I had an elephant sat on my chest and it was really sudden even the nurse panicked and she went running to get the Doctor?!? because I apparently did go completely blue
The doctor again came in. He was a very young man maybe in his 20s and told me that I was just being silly and that I was to go home because they would refuse to treat me they’re being so dramatic.
I left, and as I left, I collapse into a corridor. Turns out I had massive bilateral primary embolisms and nearly died, but fortunately a consultant had come to see me and he saved my life
People need to be shown this shit every time they badger in about how good the NHS is.
It does not surprise me. Medical misogyny in action. Women are always told we are over reacting, never genuinely unwell. I nearly died due to anaphylaxis during an operation, and a male mental health nurse later told me I brought it on myself and it was just a “severe panic attack”. Sure, you can consciously bring about a panic attack while you are under a general anaesthetic…
Imagine dying with people rolling thier eyes at you.
Every time I have my vitals checked, my oxygen sits at about 91-93 and every time they make me hyperventilate to get the number to the correct one and ignore me saying that I can’t do that constantly so it’s always low, my watch says it, my home monitor says it and theirs say it until they make me do that, totally ignoring that it sits low in the first place and I’ve had an xray with “nodules” that was never rechecked as it was taken at the beginning of lockdown and now it’s buried in notes so no one will listen.
I imagine they made this girl do the same hyperventilation shit just so they can write numbers down that make it look not like an emergency that they should be treating.