As a fellow European the only thing I have to say is
“About effing time”
SunMachiavelliTzu on
Funny that Spain, the country that spends the least on defense within NATO is now calling for a EU army. Are they then finally planning to pull their weight too? Or is it just a way to get rid of the 5% norm and mooch off the other countries again?
Right-Telephone7387 on
IRAN war has been a wakeup call to many.
IntelArtiGen on
France has been wanting that for decades, but Spain and the others need to pay for it if they want it.
crscali on
eu market … done
eu currency … done
eu army … pending
eu supranational state … pending
g17gud on
An EU army funded by all EU countries except Spain I presume?
Fabricati_Diem_Pvn on
As am I, as long as I’m not in it. Not that I don’t want to fight, it’s more that I’m a huge liability.
chadwickett on
But my lord there is no such force
MoreThenAverage on
Sorry Greece does not want Turkish aircraft, some countries prefer not having Chinese communications, etc
RW-Firerider on
While I am 100% in favour of an EU army, the main issue is that too many countries have their own idea how it should look like. I mean, for example, the airforce, what planes would it use? France probably would insist on it using french aircraft, to boost their own economy.
And this is one of the issues, an EU army is all good and well until countries only want to use it for their personal agenda
Burro94 on
We pissed off the Americans and are now looking for another dupe to pay for our defense while we play holier-than-thou. This government is an embarrassment.
just_a_random_guy_11 on
EU should have had an army before the currency, it’s that important. You can’t project power and confidence on the world stage without a powerful army. It would also force the EU to finally let go of anything militarily not made in the EU.
Shirolicious on
I don’t believe in an “EU Army”. I think there should be “EU Command” over the military for coordination and defense AND Procurement. But ultimately every country individually should stay in control of its own army.
But with all due respect. Spain should maybe first focus on meeting the NATO obligations on defense spending. I mean lets atleast commit to the absolute bare minimum that we all agreed on.
Renegade346 on
The EU won’t have an Army. It’s nonsense. Each country pays for its own defense forces. It’s political drama.
Bitter_Nail8577 on
I have this awful feeling that Spain wants the rest of EU to form the army while they neither pay for it nor provide any troops, they are still one of the EU countries that provided the least support for Ukraine
Ill_Specific_6144 on
Lol Spain. The one who struggles to hit 2% military spending, buys a lot of russian gas and barely donates anything to Ukraine.
EU army for them is just a cheap way to spend less.
gbbenner on
Funny Spain calling for this while they barely spend anything on their own defence and they hardly contribute to Nato.
R3dscarf on
As usual it’s all talk and no action with Spain. Maybe the could start pulling their own weight first.
Maroon-98 on
Well the just issued passports to 500k men of fighting age so that’s a start to their part.
Harry45620 on
Spain is letting a foreign army become citzens so this tracks
Kaarothh on
Why would anyone need an army other than a way to kill a whole generation intentionally (again).
Get nukes.
APartyInMyPants on
I guess my one question is what would an EU Army provide that NATO couldn’t already deliver for Europe?
Every EU nation except Ireland, Malta, Cyprus and Austria are NATO members.
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As a fellow European the only thing I have to say is
“About effing time”
Funny that Spain, the country that spends the least on defense within NATO is now calling for a EU army. Are they then finally planning to pull their weight too? Or is it just a way to get rid of the 5% norm and mooch off the other countries again?
IRAN war has been a wakeup call to many.
France has been wanting that for decades, but Spain and the others need to pay for it if they want it.
eu market … done
eu currency … done
eu army … pending
eu supranational state … pending
An EU army funded by all EU countries except Spain I presume?
As am I, as long as I’m not in it. Not that I don’t want to fight, it’s more that I’m a huge liability.
But my lord there is no such force
Sorry Greece does not want Turkish aircraft, some countries prefer not having Chinese communications, etc
While I am 100% in favour of an EU army, the main issue is that too many countries have their own idea how it should look like. I mean, for example, the airforce, what planes would it use? France probably would insist on it using french aircraft, to boost their own economy.
And this is one of the issues, an EU army is all good and well until countries only want to use it for their personal agenda
We pissed off the Americans and are now looking for another dupe to pay for our defense while we play holier-than-thou. This government is an embarrassment.
EU should have had an army before the currency, it’s that important. You can’t project power and confidence on the world stage without a powerful army. It would also force the EU to finally let go of anything militarily not made in the EU.
I don’t believe in an “EU Army”. I think there should be “EU Command” over the military for coordination and defense AND Procurement. But ultimately every country individually should stay in control of its own army.
But with all due respect. Spain should maybe first focus on meeting the NATO obligations on defense spending. I mean lets atleast commit to the absolute bare minimum that we all agreed on.
The EU won’t have an Army. It’s nonsense. Each country pays for its own defense forces. It’s political drama.
I have this awful feeling that Spain wants the rest of EU to form the army while they neither pay for it nor provide any troops, they are still one of the EU countries that provided the least support for Ukraine
Lol Spain. The one who struggles to hit 2% military spending, buys a lot of russian gas and barely donates anything to Ukraine.
EU army for them is just a cheap way to spend less.
Funny Spain calling for this while they barely spend anything on their own defence and they hardly contribute to Nato.
As usual it’s all talk and no action with Spain. Maybe the could start pulling their own weight first.
Well the just issued passports to 500k men of fighting age so that’s a start to their part.
Spain is letting a foreign army become citzens so this tracks
Why would anyone need an army other than a way to kill a whole generation intentionally (again).
Get nukes.
I guess my one question is what would an EU Army provide that NATO couldn’t already deliver for Europe?
Every EU nation except Ireland, Malta, Cyprus and Austria are NATO members.