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  1. Prior_Industry on

    Do we think it played out like that famous scene from the “Wolf of Wall Street”?

  2. He’s probably the best PM we have had in recent times, and if you actually look beyond what is reported Labour have done a decent amount of things. Obviously it’s only the U-turns and negative stuff that gets any oxygen.

    The big problem is that – like the States – the general population seem to be voting for personality over competency. Keir is very competent but he has no charisma. Farage and co are essentially the opposite, but people have shown they will vote for whoever tells them what they want to hear – even if it’s impossible.

    What worries me more about anything that happens with Starmer or Labour is that a great many people seem to not care or even worse distrust competent people, preferring bombast and dog whistles.

  3. Ravenblade727 on

    Needs to hold on until we can get Burnham into the picture. I think Streeting will be behind much of this noise and he’ll want this to happen early specifically so that he’s relatively uncontested. He’d be a disaster for the country though, he offers nothing different whatsoever.

  4. Confident-Bug4008 on

    if he’s holding firm despite the pressure, that could lead to some interesting developments down the line. we’ll see how this plays out.

  5. Not a massive fan of Starmer but the alternatives are so much worse. Labour infighting handing Reform more power

  6. Terrible-Group-9602 on

    The nost likely scenario now is that he limps on wounded and basically a lame duck until Burnham gets a seat, and then he resigns when it’s obvious Burnham will stand against him.

  7. Nuclear-Jester on

    I am just going to pout out that a British PM resigning after bad electoral results is hardly something new

    Even Margaret Thatcher had to resign after her own party revolted against her

  8. HiddenbyMoon on

    Good. The “media” can bullshit all they want. The grifting career politicians on the left and right can try to just him for their own gain. Ignore it, there is a job to be done.

  9. Does anyone in real life actually want him gone? The media stories around this seem so manufactured to me. What has he actually done that’s so damaging? Things take time for policies to actually have an impact and I think most policy choices have been successful. Who would even replace him? It would be nice to actually have some stabililty for once, I can’t see what this would help.

  10. No_Feature_1184 on

    Good. He’s a good man and a decent prime minister doing his best in very poor circusmtances.

  11. Starmer pointing out that the official mechanism for a leadership hasn’t been activated is a blinder of a move. It could be taken as him basically telling Wes Streeting to meet him on the court.

    The big issue that Labour currently has is that there’s no alternate to Starmer who could immediately step into the role. Wes Streeting has been floated as a challenger, but likely won’t have the support of the MPs or wider membership. Andy Burnham also isn’t an MP, so will need someone else to resign and then win a by-election first. So, by effectively saying that he’ll only leave through a leadership election, he’s pressuring Streeting to bolt out of the paddock early and risk shutting out both him and Burnham, or letting the issue drag until the media get bored and move on.

  12. It’s funny if you go back to when Labour was swept in by their huge landslide, practically everyone was predicting this would happen. That’d he just squander the opportunity.

  13. Enjoyer_of_Cake on

    I’m starting to wonder if this pressure is coming from some billionaires who want him gone that happen to own news outlets.

  14. Different_Bake_611 on

    It’s basically Starmer or reform it at this point, so I’ll take Starmer all day every day thank you.

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