ICE is just a bunch of thugs enforcing sTrumps immigration biases!!
StevenMC19 on
Ok. Let’s pretend that this suit goes through and everyone involved gets PAID.
1. The ICE officers in all three instances will have been protected by ICE, thus allowing them to continue to act with impunity. None of them will face consequences for their actions, and the organization as a whole will be minimally affected.
2. Our guy here would have just made the ICE super shit list, thus ensuring it’s going to happen a fourth, fifth, seventh, and “uh oh we lost him” times.
DaraParsavand on
Yeah this not accepting Real ID as proof of lawful status (it is not proof of citizenship in most states but it is proof you are not unlawfully present in the US in all 50 states is my understanding) needs a court smack down. The government came up with the damn ID – they need to honor it.
Even though everyone with a Real ID is completely in the right, it’s probably worth getting and carrying a passport card in this failure of a country these days.
84thPrblm on
I usually just keep my passport & card in my little safe at home.
I have the *privilege* of being an old white man in the Midwest, but lately I wonder…
atda on
I wonder how much money we’ll spend on civil rights judgements when this dipshit is gone…
ThaneduFife on
My “favorite” detail from the article: DHS says this guy was both “not detained,” and “was released,”–which wouldn’t be possible if they hadn’t detained him first.
“‘Leonardo Garcia Venegas was NOT detained last week,’ a DHS spokesperson said in a statement. ‘On Saturday, May 2, ICE conducted a routine vehicle stop on a car registered to an illegal alien. After Venegas’ identity was established, he was released.'”
“The DHS Office of Public Affairs did not immediately respond to a follow-up question asking how officers could release someone they had not detained.”
Nldman on
Infinite money glitch
luv2ctheworld on
ICE and r/fuckyouinparticular
KingAso88 on
Latinos for trump sees this and is ok with this SMH
FarImprovement2840 on
You can’t get one without proving you’re a citizen, which is througha US birth cert or a US passport. They also run you in the SAVE system to verify before issuing. I work for the DMV, this is the process to get the Real ID.
A federal requirement to fly, but now its not good enough to prove the thing its designed to prove. So what’s the point?
Loyal-Opposition-USA on
“But he looks so brown and foreign” – the ICE agents
Intrepid_Top_2300 on
ICE now has a worse reputation than the Gestapo did during Hitler.
As such, they need to be abolished along with every other security law since 9/11. Give us our rights back!
Homeland Security should also either absorb the FBI or the other way around. We do not need two domestic security agencies.
He was doing the illegal sin of WWB (Working while brown). /s
US is really showing how widespread racism is among Americans.
freexanarchy on
The rubric that ice uses is “is skin non white?-> if yes, arrest.”
C4-622MonkeyGordo on
We live in a “*Papers, please?*” police state.
I don’t recall any example in history where the police state was defeated by weekend protests and waiting until the next election…
punky100 on
ICE does not care about your status.
They care about your skin color.
They care about your ability to financially fight back.
They care about killing as many people as they can.
Anyone saying we need better IDs, what will you have us do? Anyone who isn’t a citizen gets some kind of special…badge they have to wear, so we can all tell immediately? That seems kind of…not good.
Memitim on
Yet another sign that the Republican private army isn’t solving crime or even investigating anything. It’s just opportunistic kidnappings directed against political opponents in the hopes of nabbing people that they can successfully disappear for money. Pure evil and highly criminal, regardless of the nonstop conservative lies.
zeph2 on
is this the guy who gave them all they needed to see to prove he is a citizen and ICE claimed those papers were fake every single time?
Fickle-Molasses-903 on
>despite being a U.S. citizen,
It’s ironic when you read about Latinos voting Republican when they believe they’re the “good ones.” With Stephen Miller influencing these policies, no non-white person is safe from ICE’s actions. They really don’t care, and the people who vote for Trump welcome this situation with open arms.
SignificantDogs on
Is there any red line that would cause our zombified, brainless, dickless population to give a single shit that our country is falling apart? I don’t even leave the house anymore because I don’t want to accidentally encounter a Republican and express kindness. I hate them more than any other group on the planet. At least terrorists are ideologically consistent and care about SOMETHING. Americans in general but especially Trumpers don’t care about anything but themselves and their God-King. I am so ashamed to be American.
NameLips on
Chances are he was “detained” not arrested. ICE can detain a suspected illegal for up to 48 hours, without charges, while they verify citizenship.
And thanks to scotus, they’re allowed to racially profile.
So basically any brown person can be thrown in jail for 2 days whenever ICE feels like it.
If anything, this whole debacle has revealed how much power we have given our government agencies to oppress us. Perfectly legal doesn’t mean moral or right.
Am_Deer on
I wish we had laws making this kind of thing illegal. Oh wait
History_buff60 on
Welp that’s another amended complaint.
SmokeAndGnomes on
Holy shit! This is my guy!!! I’ve worked with his family for 7 years now and they’ve done the majority of my concrete work. Phenomenal people, would do anything for anyone, and this particular person is a natural born US citizen. His family immigrated from Mexico and they all have their papers in order but he was born here.
ICE has raided the neighborhoods I worked in multiple times and it’s fucking disguisting. I pray the Pro V family own DHS when this is all over with.
imminentjogger5 on
the administrations about to put him on a drug boat in the Caribbean
Za_Lords_Guard on
So they supposedly have 20M profile on their Palantir app on their iPhones to ID every immigrant in America, yet they still seem to have trouble with shit like this… while saying their DB has a 0% mismatch rate.
Having ID is meaningless as they will just ignore it and take you in. They don’t care. They are paid by the body (literally what they call immigrants – though when I heard it it was a way to dehumanize the immigrants so it was easier emotionally on the officers – they aren’t people, just bodies). Someone else’s problem to figure out your status and it could take hours, days, weeks or months… Or you end up in some prison in some country whose language you don’t speak.
BlatantFalsehood on
These Kavanaugh arrests must continually be called out.
splycedaddy on
Hot take. Most dems want to fight this but my vote is to use it to detain all maga terrorists and deport them.
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ICE is just a bunch of thugs enforcing sTrumps immigration biases!!
Ok. Let’s pretend that this suit goes through and everyone involved gets PAID.
1. The ICE officers in all three instances will have been protected by ICE, thus allowing them to continue to act with impunity. None of them will face consequences for their actions, and the organization as a whole will be minimally affected.
2. Our guy here would have just made the ICE super shit list, thus ensuring it’s going to happen a fourth, fifth, seventh, and “uh oh we lost him” times.
Yeah this not accepting Real ID as proof of lawful status (it is not proof of citizenship in most states but it is proof you are not unlawfully present in the US in all 50 states is my understanding) needs a court smack down. The government came up with the damn ID – they need to honor it.
Even though everyone with a Real ID is completely in the right, it’s probably worth getting and carrying a passport card in this failure of a country these days.
I usually just keep my passport & card in my little safe at home.
I have the *privilege* of being an old white man in the Midwest, but lately I wonder…
I wonder how much money we’ll spend on civil rights judgements when this dipshit is gone…
My “favorite” detail from the article: DHS says this guy was both “not detained,” and “was released,”–which wouldn’t be possible if they hadn’t detained him first.
“‘Leonardo Garcia Venegas was NOT detained last week,’ a DHS spokesperson said in a statement. ‘On Saturday, May 2, ICE conducted a routine vehicle stop on a car registered to an illegal alien. After Venegas’ identity was established, he was released.'”
“The DHS Office of Public Affairs did not immediately respond to a follow-up question asking how officers could release someone they had not detained.”
Infinite money glitch
ICE and r/fuckyouinparticular
Latinos for trump sees this and is ok with this SMH
You can’t get one without proving you’re a citizen, which is througha US birth cert or a US passport. They also run you in the SAVE system to verify before issuing. I work for the DMV, this is the process to get the Real ID.
A federal requirement to fly, but now its not good enough to prove the thing its designed to prove. So what’s the point?
“But he looks so brown and foreign” – the ICE agents
ICE now has a worse reputation than the Gestapo did during Hitler.
As such, they need to be abolished along with every other security law since 9/11. Give us our rights back!
Homeland Security should also either absorb the FBI or the other way around. We do not need two domestic security agencies.
man I hate agreeing with a [Reason.com](http://Reason.com) article.
I hope he gets every penny!
He was doing the illegal sin of WWB (Working while brown). /s
US is really showing how widespread racism is among Americans.
The rubric that ice uses is “is skin non white?-> if yes, arrest.”
We live in a “*Papers, please?*” police state.
I don’t recall any example in history where the police state was defeated by weekend protests and waiting until the next election…
ICE does not care about your status.
They care about your skin color.
They care about your ability to financially fight back.
They care about killing as many people as they can.
Anyone saying we need better IDs, what will you have us do? Anyone who isn’t a citizen gets some kind of special…badge they have to wear, so we can all tell immediately? That seems kind of…not good.
Yet another sign that the Republican private army isn’t solving crime or even investigating anything. It’s just opportunistic kidnappings directed against political opponents in the hopes of nabbing people that they can successfully disappear for money. Pure evil and highly criminal, regardless of the nonstop conservative lies.
is this the guy who gave them all they needed to see to prove he is a citizen and ICE claimed those papers were fake every single time?
>despite being a U.S. citizen,
It’s ironic when you read about Latinos voting Republican when they believe they’re the “good ones.” With Stephen Miller influencing these policies, no non-white person is safe from ICE’s actions. They really don’t care, and the people who vote for Trump welcome this situation with open arms.
Is there any red line that would cause our zombified, brainless, dickless population to give a single shit that our country is falling apart? I don’t even leave the house anymore because I don’t want to accidentally encounter a Republican and express kindness. I hate them more than any other group on the planet. At least terrorists are ideologically consistent and care about SOMETHING. Americans in general but especially Trumpers don’t care about anything but themselves and their God-King. I am so ashamed to be American.
Chances are he was “detained” not arrested. ICE can detain a suspected illegal for up to 48 hours, without charges, while they verify citizenship.
And thanks to scotus, they’re allowed to racially profile.
So basically any brown person can be thrown in jail for 2 days whenever ICE feels like it.
If anything, this whole debacle has revealed how much power we have given our government agencies to oppress us. Perfectly legal doesn’t mean moral or right.
I wish we had laws making this kind of thing illegal. Oh wait
Welp that’s another amended complaint.
Holy shit! This is my guy!!! I’ve worked with his family for 7 years now and they’ve done the majority of my concrete work. Phenomenal people, would do anything for anyone, and this particular person is a natural born US citizen. His family immigrated from Mexico and they all have their papers in order but he was born here.
ICE has raided the neighborhoods I worked in multiple times and it’s fucking disguisting. I pray the Pro V family own DHS when this is all over with.
the administrations about to put him on a drug boat in the Caribbean
So they supposedly have 20M profile on their Palantir app on their iPhones to ID every immigrant in America, yet they still seem to have trouble with shit like this… while saying their DB has a 0% mismatch rate.
Having ID is meaningless as they will just ignore it and take you in. They don’t care. They are paid by the body (literally what they call immigrants – though when I heard it it was a way to dehumanize the immigrants so it was easier emotionally on the officers – they aren’t people, just bodies). Someone else’s problem to figure out your status and it could take hours, days, weeks or months… Or you end up in some prison in some country whose language you don’t speak.
These Kavanaugh arrests must continually be called out.
Hot take. Most dems want to fight this but my vote is to use it to detain all maga terrorists and deport them.