> Overall, the researchers found that “AI-exposed courses” saw a 30 percent increase in “A” grades since ChatGPT hit the market.
> What is interesting is that, four years into the widespread presence of generative AI in our daily lives, the study shows that American universities have yet to catch up with its consequences.
> With more AI-enabled grade inflation, employers will have a tougher time weeding out strong young graduate candidates, the study says. But even more importantly, this increased reliance on AI in academia is bound to create an incompetent workforce that is dependent on AI.
Basically this study undermines the universities claims that they can recognize AI, or that AI answers are low quality. Apparently the students use of AI for their assignments WORKS. It’s getting them top grades, however wise and savvy the professors think they are.
WIZZZARDOFFREESTYLE on
I mean grades mean shit if you wanna suceed in life you need the smart skills not the school skills you gotta be a notherfucing g !!!!
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Regular_Heroin_ on
AI should really be banned on school devices, if schools are insistent on using Chromebooks and iPads anyway.
If kids turn in assignments on any devices other than school issued ones, they fail the assignment automatically.
We should not be pushing reliance on AI
VitunRasistinenSika on
Simple solution is to have exams on paper. Hard to cheat your way through when there’s no ai pen
LordAlfrey on
That kinda is what AI is ‘supposed’ to do, it does some of the thinking for you and outputs work at a volume. Education needs to catch up to this new reality, either meaningfully banning the use, or incorporating AI into the scope of assignments. Think of it this way; if a student with AI can output 10x the amount of essays, then the requirement needs to grow by 10x.
Mana_Seeker on
Kids who use tools learn how to use said tools better than peers who don’t
saladada on
I went back to university, I’m finishing up this month.
My first run was 2008-2012. Back then, the biggest form of cheating was people taking Ritalin to focus and there were some theoretical papers available to study from, but nothing I ever saw as a student myself.
Everything is completely different now. No one attends class (I once showed up and was the only one in the lecture room), if they do then they’re just on their phones and not paying attention, and the cheating is ridiculous. Phones during exams, photos of all the exams shared, it’s ridiculous. Most of my classmates really know very little of their science degree.
BRLaw2016 on
IMO this just shows that the way education work was never fit for purpose if the AI can come and do the work straight up. Education shouldn’t be about memorizing, it should be about learning. The moment exams stop being a memory test and become a test of knowledge, with questions that are actually complicated and engaging, requiring an understanding of the subject, then AI would naturally struggle more to write something worthy. Also, exams could have oral components where, again, would require the student understanding the subject.
KitsuneKamiSama on
This is the true way of humanity’s downfall by AI, not by a hostile takeover but enshittification.
EveryPen260 on
I did now a 3 months course ( on AI funny enough) since they budget doesn’t spend itself.
Yeh.. it is different now. Before AI I actually needed to write the reports, now? I put my thoughts, ask AI to refine, ask AI to review the document, compare with the request, give me recommendations, it’s much more easier, and faster, a 5 pages report before would take me a few days now is one afternoon including diagrams.
And like the article says, because I didn’t struggle and grind though the reports, AI did the heavy work, ended up not learning/ memory as much as would before AI.
Single-Purpose-7608 on
I think AI should be banned in highschool, but colleges should lean into it.
Much of what wastes students time from my experience is brute force learning. Reading a paragraph or paper talking about an experimental method or mathematical analysis that was never taught and never explained in a curiculum.
AI works wonders for that in explaining what the concepts are, even if it can’t actually explain the math behind it. This shortcuts that process of having no conceptual grounding, and you can begin to piece together the math much quicker.
For essays, obviously it’s a bad idea to allow students to use AI to write it out of whole cloth. But in terms of getting holistic summaries of whole papers, I think it’s perfectly fine, considering we literally already do this: every paper has an abstract and introduction that traces how all the concepts piece together.
digital_cucumber on
That’s fine, AI will take their future jobs as well.
5kyl3r on
making the tests/exams heavily weighted is an easy fix. cheating on homework means no learning, which means tests will be failed
Pseudonym-Sam on
Ugh, tell me about it. I’ve taught mostly online classes since COVID (it’s the new normal for me), and my class format makes it impossible to assign no-AI handwritten work in a physical classroom. The number of AI-written papers is utterly rampant despite all rules against them, but I can only prosecute beyond reasonable doubt those with obvious “smoking gun” evidence like fake sources/quotations. Even so, the students who I bust don’t change their behavior and just continue to throw AI slop at me, because they can always do the same thing again for no effort and sometimes the AI doesn’t make enough incriminating errors that I can act upon. And frustratingly, those *probably-but-not-provably-AI* papers are… passable. They’re never *good*, but good enough to merit a C-grade most of the time. The grade inflation is real and it’s driving me up the wall.
Memeteaming on
Train AI on Reddit and everything it outputs will begin with “I mean” and end with “lol” as punctuation. To be fair, really. Honestly, genuinely.
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‘Chat gpt can you summarise this article for me’
It will bring fourth the age of idiocracy.
Future is fucked, we know.
> Overall, the researchers found that “AI-exposed courses” saw a 30 percent increase in “A” grades since ChatGPT hit the market.
> What is interesting is that, four years into the widespread presence of generative AI in our daily lives, the study shows that American universities have yet to catch up with its consequences.
> With more AI-enabled grade inflation, employers will have a tougher time weeding out strong young graduate candidates, the study says. But even more importantly, this increased reliance on AI in academia is bound to create an incompetent workforce that is dependent on AI.
Basically this study undermines the universities claims that they can recognize AI, or that AI answers are low quality. Apparently the students use of AI for their assignments WORKS. It’s getting them top grades, however wise and savvy the professors think they are.
I mean grades mean shit if you wanna suceed in life you need the smart skills not the school skills you gotta be a notherfucing g !!!!
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AI should really be banned on school devices, if schools are insistent on using Chromebooks and iPads anyway.
If kids turn in assignments on any devices other than school issued ones, they fail the assignment automatically.
We should not be pushing reliance on AI
Simple solution is to have exams on paper. Hard to cheat your way through when there’s no ai pen
That kinda is what AI is ‘supposed’ to do, it does some of the thinking for you and outputs work at a volume. Education needs to catch up to this new reality, either meaningfully banning the use, or incorporating AI into the scope of assignments. Think of it this way; if a student with AI can output 10x the amount of essays, then the requirement needs to grow by 10x.
Kids who use tools learn how to use said tools better than peers who don’t
I went back to university, I’m finishing up this month.
My first run was 2008-2012. Back then, the biggest form of cheating was people taking Ritalin to focus and there were some theoretical papers available to study from, but nothing I ever saw as a student myself.
Everything is completely different now. No one attends class (I once showed up and was the only one in the lecture room), if they do then they’re just on their phones and not paying attention, and the cheating is ridiculous. Phones during exams, photos of all the exams shared, it’s ridiculous. Most of my classmates really know very little of their science degree.
IMO this just shows that the way education work was never fit for purpose if the AI can come and do the work straight up. Education shouldn’t be about memorizing, it should be about learning. The moment exams stop being a memory test and become a test of knowledge, with questions that are actually complicated and engaging, requiring an understanding of the subject, then AI would naturally struggle more to write something worthy. Also, exams could have oral components where, again, would require the student understanding the subject.
This is the true way of humanity’s downfall by AI, not by a hostile takeover but enshittification.
I did now a 3 months course ( on AI funny enough) since they budget doesn’t spend itself.
Yeh.. it is different now. Before AI I actually needed to write the reports, now? I put my thoughts, ask AI to refine, ask AI to review the document, compare with the request, give me recommendations, it’s much more easier, and faster, a 5 pages report before would take me a few days now is one afternoon including diagrams.
And like the article says, because I didn’t struggle and grind though the reports, AI did the heavy work, ended up not learning/ memory as much as would before AI.
I think AI should be banned in highschool, but colleges should lean into it.
Much of what wastes students time from my experience is brute force learning. Reading a paragraph or paper talking about an experimental method or mathematical analysis that was never taught and never explained in a curiculum.
AI works wonders for that in explaining what the concepts are, even if it can’t actually explain the math behind it. This shortcuts that process of having no conceptual grounding, and you can begin to piece together the math much quicker.
For essays, obviously it’s a bad idea to allow students to use AI to write it out of whole cloth. But in terms of getting holistic summaries of whole papers, I think it’s perfectly fine, considering we literally already do this: every paper has an abstract and introduction that traces how all the concepts piece together.
That’s fine, AI will take their future jobs as well.
making the tests/exams heavily weighted is an easy fix. cheating on homework means no learning, which means tests will be failed
Ugh, tell me about it. I’ve taught mostly online classes since COVID (it’s the new normal for me), and my class format makes it impossible to assign no-AI handwritten work in a physical classroom. The number of AI-written papers is utterly rampant despite all rules against them, but I can only prosecute beyond reasonable doubt those with obvious “smoking gun” evidence like fake sources/quotations. Even so, the students who I bust don’t change their behavior and just continue to throw AI slop at me, because they can always do the same thing again for no effort and sometimes the AI doesn’t make enough incriminating errors that I can act upon. And frustratingly, those *probably-but-not-provably-AI* papers are… passable. They’re never *good*, but good enough to merit a C-grade most of the time. The grade inflation is real and it’s driving me up the wall.
Train AI on Reddit and everything it outputs will begin with “I mean” and end with “lol” as punctuation. To be fair, really. Honestly, genuinely.