Already seeing a lot of the knuckle draggers pointing out that this is 813000 in and 642000 out… and screaming that all of the people leaving are good, fine, upstanding British people, and all the people coming in are gormless foreigners. Of course, that 642000 is absolutely not just British people leaving – in fact, they are the minority in that figure. 246000 British nationals left, which is also slightly down.
legentofreddit on
Genuine question because I’m ignorant, please don’t take this as bait. There are at least three Turkish style barbers within a 5 minute walk from my house. Each one appears to employ 3 to 5 young men, seemingly of Turkish/Iraqi/Kurdish ethnicity who seem to be recent movers to these shores. What is their situation likely to be? So that a) they could get over to the UK in the first place and b) be allowed to work in a (relatively) unskilled profession? (sorry to any barbers reading this). Will they be Asylum seekers who’ve been given leave to remain? Are they likely to have come in the small boats or are there other ways?
WalkingCloud on
I’m sure this will be widely reported and paid attention to.
PeekyChew on
If you don’t count covid, isn’t this the lowest in about 15 years?
jaymatthewbee on
So best economic growth in the G7, inflation down, net migration down, asylum down, asylum hotel numbers more than halved.
Maybe if more people knew how to use a VPN when they wanted a wank this government wouldn’t be so bad after all?
Apprehensive_Bus_543 on
If it keeps going down at what point does it start to become damaging, I know it’s already causing problems for our universities? As our natural population is now declining when do we start to notice changes? If we become like parts of Spain and Italy would any parts of the UK see towns abandoned? Interesting times ahead possibly.
OilAdministrative197 on
Didn’t matter how much it came down by it’ll never be enough. The Boris wave resulted in such a transformational change alongside reductions in British birth rates that people will always believe immigration is on the rise. It is still rising just by slightly less.
FaceMace87 on
Still won’t be enough for many even though if Reform had gotten the number down to 300,000 it would be touted as some amazing feat. Why? Fuck knows.
Kharenis on
Cool, so we’re now only getting a city’s worth of additional people every year.
Salty-Bid1597 on
It’s almost like covid fucked up the figures by forcing foreign students to leave and then come back later and that is now working its way out of the system.
JB_UK on
Boris increased the population by 2.5 million people in three years, equivalent to total population growth in the 70s, 80s and 90s combined, and now a percentage of that population is drawing back as we fall back to equilibrium.
If net migration was zero for the next five years, we’d end up with population growth over the decade more than twice the historical norm. So that would a good start. Then the number of houses per person might increase back towards normal levels, and house prices and housing costs fall.
JRR92 on
Anyone noticed how all those headlines about X amount of small boat migrants arriving in a day suddenly stopped showing up so much near the end of last year? It feels like we barely hear about it now
ConfusedQuarks on
I think people’s views on immigration comes from perception of what they see around them. If Labour could push forward with Shabana’s immigration reforms and avoid giving permanent residency to all of the Boriswave immigrants, within a couple of years the perception is bound to change as more people leave the country.
That’s why I believe that Starmer has to be given more time. Playing musical chairs with the PM position at this point will undo all the good changes done so far and play right into the hands of Reform.
Carbonatic on
So the Blue Party increase migration. The Red party starts trying to reduce it. The Blue Party then slightly change their colour to the Teal party, and tell people that the Red Party aren’t reversing what the Blue Party’s did fast enough.
IgneousJam on
So still importing close to 200k per year then … I recall back when governments promised to cut immigration to “tens of thousands”.
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Already seeing a lot of the knuckle draggers pointing out that this is 813000 in and 642000 out… and screaming that all of the people leaving are good, fine, upstanding British people, and all the people coming in are gormless foreigners. Of course, that 642000 is absolutely not just British people leaving – in fact, they are the minority in that figure. 246000 British nationals left, which is also slightly down.
Genuine question because I’m ignorant, please don’t take this as bait. There are at least three Turkish style barbers within a 5 minute walk from my house. Each one appears to employ 3 to 5 young men, seemingly of Turkish/Iraqi/Kurdish ethnicity who seem to be recent movers to these shores. What is their situation likely to be? So that a) they could get over to the UK in the first place and b) be allowed to work in a (relatively) unskilled profession? (sorry to any barbers reading this). Will they be Asylum seekers who’ve been given leave to remain? Are they likely to have come in the small boats or are there other ways?
I’m sure this will be widely reported and paid attention to.
If you don’t count covid, isn’t this the lowest in about 15 years?
So best economic growth in the G7, inflation down, net migration down, asylum down, asylum hotel numbers more than halved.
Maybe if more people knew how to use a VPN when they wanted a wank this government wouldn’t be so bad after all?
If it keeps going down at what point does it start to become damaging, I know it’s already causing problems for our universities? As our natural population is now declining when do we start to notice changes? If we become like parts of Spain and Italy would any parts of the UK see towns abandoned? Interesting times ahead possibly.
Didn’t matter how much it came down by it’ll never be enough. The Boris wave resulted in such a transformational change alongside reductions in British birth rates that people will always believe immigration is on the rise. It is still rising just by slightly less.
Still won’t be enough for many even though if Reform had gotten the number down to 300,000 it would be touted as some amazing feat. Why? Fuck knows.
Cool, so we’re now only getting a city’s worth of additional people every year.
It’s almost like covid fucked up the figures by forcing foreign students to leave and then come back later and that is now working its way out of the system.
Boris increased the population by 2.5 million people in three years, equivalent to total population growth in the 70s, 80s and 90s combined, and now a percentage of that population is drawing back as we fall back to equilibrium.
If net migration was zero for the next five years, we’d end up with population growth over the decade more than twice the historical norm. So that would a good start. Then the number of houses per person might increase back towards normal levels, and house prices and housing costs fall.
Anyone noticed how all those headlines about X amount of small boat migrants arriving in a day suddenly stopped showing up so much near the end of last year? It feels like we barely hear about it now
I think people’s views on immigration comes from perception of what they see around them. If Labour could push forward with Shabana’s immigration reforms and avoid giving permanent residency to all of the Boriswave immigrants, within a couple of years the perception is bound to change as more people leave the country.
That’s why I believe that Starmer has to be given more time. Playing musical chairs with the PM position at this point will undo all the good changes done so far and play right into the hands of Reform.
So the Blue Party increase migration. The Red party starts trying to reduce it. The Blue Party then slightly change their colour to the Teal party, and tell people that the Red Party aren’t reversing what the Blue Party’s did fast enough.
So still importing close to 200k per year then … I recall back when governments promised to cut immigration to “tens of thousands”.