That autopsy wasn’t a passing college thesis, Martin should never have let it be the record for how they blew one of the most consequential presidential elections in history.
Lumpy-Ad7805 on
Obviously the DNC chair should lose his job over this. But if the structure of the DNC is such that it’s his choice whether to resign or not, then the DNC needs restructuring. And the fact this abysmal report happened in the way it did with the lack of oversight it did, shows the DNC needs restructuring.
BuddyMammoth9040 on
Democrats keep acting shocked that voters want urgency while the party leadership keeps operating like it is still 2012. If your own members are publicly talking resignation less than two years in, something is deeply broken
brute-forced on
Zero leadership… Absolutely zero leadership
Murranji on
Appoints a personal friend to do an autopsy instead of a qualified party through a competitive bid.
Personal friend turns in an error ridden AI written dogs breakfast.
Tries to hide the report knowing how bad it will look, lies about the reason, and keeps the friend employed and working for the DNC until he is forced to come clean from CNN getting ahold of the report.
Anyone wondering why the Democratic Party has a lower approval rating than the most incompetent openly evil corrupt fascist dementia ridden dictator this is a large reason why.
CP_Chronicler on
He claimed to have wanted the report released. He could simply have said that he saw the report, it was incomplete and not up to par, and thus he was going to take charge as the DNC chair to right the ship and pivot to focusing on developing an aggressive playbook like a Democrat’s version of Project 2025. All he had to do was be open and honest. But this little shit’s smug condescension has resulted in breaking critical trust in the Democrat party when it needs it most and because he waited a year, it‘s happening at the worst time during primaries for the midterms. Idiotic, incompetent, hubris. Ken f***ing Martin everyone. 👏 Get him TF out.
CodyintheCinema on
He’s perfect for what the DNC is, which I am 100 percent sure is a paid loser for the GOP and the oligarchy at this point.
ExcitingRound4990 on
Why do we have another agency that interferes with our choice of candidates?
Tsobe_RK on
“should this that” fucking make them
Bittererr on
People in this thread are being entirely disingenuous when they say “if only he had handled it this way everyone would be happy”. The reality is he would be trashed for whatever decision he made here because the brand of the DNC is fundamentally damaged. People can and will hate it whatever it does.
Pay a real organization to run a real autopsy instead of accepting a freebie? Oust him for spending donor money on more consultants, we hate that.
Released the report as is? Oust him for incompetence.
Not released the report? Oust him for dishonesty.
Somehow get a free, comprehensive, and honest autopsy and then release it? Oust him because the conclusions in the autopsy don’t match what people have already decided the issue is.
fix_until_broken on
If they messed up this bad it had to be because they have no interest in fixing anything at all.
CSKweh on
Both parties, R and D, deserve complete collapse and reformation. I always thought R would immolate first. I think it kind of did? Now they are hyper right-wing. D is pretty right-wing now too. Sadness. Anger. Anger! Not sure where to go with that anger, especially as I am just waking up. Reddit, and life, are heavy sometimes.
monopulse on
“Party Leader”. On both sides of the fence those two words are meaningless.
WhereINeededToBe on
John Stewart tried to [interview](https://youtu.be/SLi6gB0_hpE?si=jtx-VWY6Lpm_4nFg) Martin last year. You could see the frustration mounting as that idiot just agress with everything and drones on and on in circles about vague platitudes. He’s his own yes man. Wildly incompetent.
borntolose1 on
People want the opposition party to behave like an opposition party and show some backbone. So weird. So difficult to figure out.
The DNC should hire me
LomentMomentum on
It’s funny how Ken Martin became Keir Starmer overnight.
This whole episode begs the question that won’t go away: do the Democrats actually understand what they’re up against? The party will do well this year because the opposition is f*cking up so badly. They had solid wins in 2018, 2020, and partially 2022. But even those wins had weaknesses that remain.
Obviously, the party is still living and operating as though we are still living in Barack Obama’s America, but he’s been out of office for nearly a decade. They have a very hard time acknowledging that the country has moved on, even if it is ultimately right about the horrors of his successor. Until they confront the rage and discontent that led to this current moment, they will be condemned to repeat the horrors of 2016 and 2024.
olmansmit on
Ah, so he should resign but not the rest of arty leadership that contributes to the current state of the country?
The entire leadership structure and most of the elected officials need to all be removed and replaced by people who give a damn about people more than finding a way to give into Republican demands.
WaffleBlues on
The DNC is literally incompetent. They’ve been incompetent for years, their leadership is incompetent, the consultants they hire are incompetent.
rodentmaster on
If by “resign” you misspelled “be imprisoned and convicted of high treason with corresponding punishment (we still use it)’ then yes, he should “resign” I agree wholeheartedly!
Ok_Jello_6042 on
For releasing the report he didn’t want to release? Or for not wanting to release the report he didn’t want to release?
RoughPalpitation7381 on
Of course he should resign! Someone on here was arguing not too long ago about how great of a job this bozo is doing.
Malthan01 on
He should, the is the tip of the iceberg of mismanagement.
chrissymck on
A lot of voters can tolerate ideological differences. What they usually do not tolerate is the feeling that nobody is listening until polling collapses.
The bigger issue feels cultural at this point. Leadership keeps talking in consultant language while people are worried about rent, exhaustion, and whether anything materially improves in their lives.
Vacuum_Burrito on
The DNC should be dissolved
Vacuum_Burrito on
Democratic National CORPORATION
sonny9636 on
Yes they should have voted on that other guy from Wisconsin. He was a bright, new, media savvy, progressive person. But they stuck with status quo. That was a big mistake. They need new leadership, it’s not working anymore. Remove the entire leadership team and start over.
thirstygregory on
Beyond a true revolution, which is not beyond imagining with Trump’s insanity, seems like the most likely way the DNC and greater Dem Party will be transformed is through the potential infusion and elevation of the more true progressive leaders in the party as they win elections.
Used to be just Bernie. Now we have AOC, Zohran, Ossoff, and potentially incoming (if we’re lucky) Talarico, El-Sayed, Platner, and others who are making a name for themselves.
For now, just slow the bleeding, kick Martin’s ass out and put the best, younger person like Wikler in. Old-school, corporate DNC Dems will hopefully lose influence as these newer leaders emerge.
Not the ideal scenario, but seems possible.
Constant_Flamingo828 on
The dems keep losing because the party is ruled by high paid, incompetent advisors like this guy.
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That autopsy wasn’t a passing college thesis, Martin should never have let it be the record for how they blew one of the most consequential presidential elections in history.
Obviously the DNC chair should lose his job over this. But if the structure of the DNC is such that it’s his choice whether to resign or not, then the DNC needs restructuring. And the fact this abysmal report happened in the way it did with the lack of oversight it did, shows the DNC needs restructuring.
Democrats keep acting shocked that voters want urgency while the party leadership keeps operating like it is still 2012. If your own members are publicly talking resignation less than two years in, something is deeply broken
Zero leadership… Absolutely zero leadership
Appoints a personal friend to do an autopsy instead of a qualified party through a competitive bid.
Personal friend turns in an error ridden AI written dogs breakfast.
Tries to hide the report knowing how bad it will look, lies about the reason, and keeps the friend employed and working for the DNC until he is forced to come clean from CNN getting ahold of the report.
Anyone wondering why the Democratic Party has a lower approval rating than the most incompetent openly evil corrupt fascist dementia ridden dictator this is a large reason why.
He claimed to have wanted the report released. He could simply have said that he saw the report, it was incomplete and not up to par, and thus he was going to take charge as the DNC chair to right the ship and pivot to focusing on developing an aggressive playbook like a Democrat’s version of Project 2025. All he had to do was be open and honest. But this little shit’s smug condescension has resulted in breaking critical trust in the Democrat party when it needs it most and because he waited a year, it‘s happening at the worst time during primaries for the midterms. Idiotic, incompetent, hubris. Ken f***ing Martin everyone. 👏 Get him TF out.
He’s perfect for what the DNC is, which I am 100 percent sure is a paid loser for the GOP and the oligarchy at this point.
Why do we have another agency that interferes with our choice of candidates?
“should this that” fucking make them
People in this thread are being entirely disingenuous when they say “if only he had handled it this way everyone would be happy”. The reality is he would be trashed for whatever decision he made here because the brand of the DNC is fundamentally damaged. People can and will hate it whatever it does.
Pay a real organization to run a real autopsy instead of accepting a freebie? Oust him for spending donor money on more consultants, we hate that.
Released the report as is? Oust him for incompetence.
Not released the report? Oust him for dishonesty.
Somehow get a free, comprehensive, and honest autopsy and then release it? Oust him because the conclusions in the autopsy don’t match what people have already decided the issue is.
If they messed up this bad it had to be because they have no interest in fixing anything at all.
Both parties, R and D, deserve complete collapse and reformation. I always thought R would immolate first. I think it kind of did? Now they are hyper right-wing. D is pretty right-wing now too. Sadness. Anger. Anger! Not sure where to go with that anger, especially as I am just waking up. Reddit, and life, are heavy sometimes.
“Party Leader”. On both sides of the fence those two words are meaningless.
John Stewart tried to [interview](https://youtu.be/SLi6gB0_hpE?si=jtx-VWY6Lpm_4nFg) Martin last year. You could see the frustration mounting as that idiot just agress with everything and drones on and on in circles about vague platitudes. He’s his own yes man. Wildly incompetent.
People want the opposition party to behave like an opposition party and show some backbone. So weird. So difficult to figure out.
The DNC should hire me
It’s funny how Ken Martin became Keir Starmer overnight.
This whole episode begs the question that won’t go away: do the Democrats actually understand what they’re up against? The party will do well this year because the opposition is f*cking up so badly. They had solid wins in 2018, 2020, and partially 2022. But even those wins had weaknesses that remain.
Obviously, the party is still living and operating as though we are still living in Barack Obama’s America, but he’s been out of office for nearly a decade. They have a very hard time acknowledging that the country has moved on, even if it is ultimately right about the horrors of his successor. Until they confront the rage and discontent that led to this current moment, they will be condemned to repeat the horrors of 2016 and 2024.
Ah, so he should resign but not the rest of arty leadership that contributes to the current state of the country?
The entire leadership structure and most of the elected officials need to all be removed and replaced by people who give a damn about people more than finding a way to give into Republican demands.
The DNC is literally incompetent. They’ve been incompetent for years, their leadership is incompetent, the consultants they hire are incompetent.
If by “resign” you misspelled “be imprisoned and convicted of high treason with corresponding punishment (we still use it)’ then yes, he should “resign” I agree wholeheartedly!
For releasing the report he didn’t want to release? Or for not wanting to release the report he didn’t want to release?
Of course he should resign! Someone on here was arguing not too long ago about how great of a job this bozo is doing.
He should, the is the tip of the iceberg of mismanagement.
A lot of voters can tolerate ideological differences. What they usually do not tolerate is the feeling that nobody is listening until polling collapses.
The bigger issue feels cultural at this point. Leadership keeps talking in consultant language while people are worried about rent, exhaustion, and whether anything materially improves in their lives.
The DNC should be dissolved
Democratic National CORPORATION
Yes they should have voted on that other guy from Wisconsin. He was a bright, new, media savvy, progressive person. But they stuck with status quo. That was a big mistake. They need new leadership, it’s not working anymore. Remove the entire leadership team and start over.
Beyond a true revolution, which is not beyond imagining with Trump’s insanity, seems like the most likely way the DNC and greater Dem Party will be transformed is through the potential infusion and elevation of the more true progressive leaders in the party as they win elections.
Used to be just Bernie. Now we have AOC, Zohran, Ossoff, and potentially incoming (if we’re lucky) Talarico, El-Sayed, Platner, and others who are making a name for themselves.
For now, just slow the bleeding, kick Martin’s ass out and put the best, younger person like Wikler in. Old-school, corporate DNC Dems will hopefully lose influence as these newer leaders emerge.
Not the ideal scenario, but seems possible.
The dems keep losing because the party is ruled by high paid, incompetent advisors like this guy.