I think that a Teal party would be a good thing. The Liberals are rapidly heading off to the far right to compete with One Nation and are focused on trying to hold their current regional seats, so there is a huge opportunity for a centre-right/centrist party focused on the cities. Independents have their advantages, but a big problem is that they can’t form government or (generally) enter into a lasting coalition with a governing party. If you want to change Australia for the better, you need to be in government, not on the cross-benches.
Jealous-Hedgehog-734 on
>…the senator said his proposal would not involve approving new gas projects.
So his plan is to harvest golden eggs but also strangle the geese laying them?
nobelharvards on
David Pocock is already in a party of one called David Pocock for visibility to above the line voters.
Truly independent senator candidates have a disadvantage in the sense that their name does not appear above the line, which is the voting method most people end up going with.
__dontpanic__ on
You’d have to think that a Pockock/Teal based party would be the final nail in the coffin for the LNP. Would also take a decent chunk out of the Labor vote too. You’d likely have a coalition with ALP/Pockock/Greens which honestly would be pretty good.
greatmodernmyths on
This is exactly what I thought might happen after ON’s rise, an equal and opposite group emerging on the centre-left. Will see if something emerges in the next 12-18 months.
ElectronicOvens on
I’m not a flag waving lunatic who goes all in on a politician
So I wouldn’t support him without question
I do however believe he is the type to get good like minded people together and could build a good party
LordWalderFrey1 on
This would be a force. There’s more Tealish voters than just those in the seats that the Teals win or compete in. However this would hurt Labor, the Liberals and the Greens way more than One Nation.
There just isn’t much of a crossover between a Teal or Pocock type voter and an ON one. Rural and regional conservatives would view the unapologetic environmentalism of the Teals as an existential threat to their livelihoods. The Teals don’t have much of an appeal to a dissatisfied angry working class voter either.
There definitely are some middle class Labor voters who would be tempted by a Teal if they ran in their seat. Some Liberals who might have held out for longer thinking the party could be saved but realise it can’t, could end up flipping. A lot of the “Tree Tory” type Greens might be more at home in a Teal party.
Nyarlathotep-1 on
Breaking News: Pocock has named his party The Guardian Australia party.
T0kenAussie on
The party structure is already there in all but name. The Australia Institute feeds them policy positions and the waspy inner city rich fund their campaigns.
Telling in that interview he said the “independents” all get together to discuss issues and then froze up when pushed to confirm it would come to a party structure.
Right now the teals are being propped by the Holmes A Courts of the country and the policy structures of the dennisses of the country to create a left leaning populist one nation structure that has little to no political integrity but sounds good on the soundbites to drive influence and hollow out the left side of politics at the expense of labor
They want a US style Democratic Party movement to erode the labor party and kill the only party in the world that has direct representation from unions and worker rights advocates. It’s sickening to see the corporate media allow the frog to boil this way
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I think that a Teal party would be a good thing. The Liberals are rapidly heading off to the far right to compete with One Nation and are focused on trying to hold their current regional seats, so there is a huge opportunity for a centre-right/centrist party focused on the cities. Independents have their advantages, but a big problem is that they can’t form government or (generally) enter into a lasting coalition with a governing party. If you want to change Australia for the better, you need to be in government, not on the cross-benches.
>…the senator said his proposal would not involve approving new gas projects.
So his plan is to harvest golden eggs but also strangle the geese laying them?
David Pocock is already in a party of one called David Pocock for visibility to above the line voters.
Truly independent senator candidates have a disadvantage in the sense that their name does not appear above the line, which is the voting method most people end up going with.
You’d have to think that a Pockock/Teal based party would be the final nail in the coffin for the LNP. Would also take a decent chunk out of the Labor vote too. You’d likely have a coalition with ALP/Pockock/Greens which honestly would be pretty good.
This is exactly what I thought might happen after ON’s rise, an equal and opposite group emerging on the centre-left. Will see if something emerges in the next 12-18 months.
I’m not a flag waving lunatic who goes all in on a politician
So I wouldn’t support him without question
I do however believe he is the type to get good like minded people together and could build a good party
This would be a force. There’s more Tealish voters than just those in the seats that the Teals win or compete in. However this would hurt Labor, the Liberals and the Greens way more than One Nation.
There just isn’t much of a crossover between a Teal or Pocock type voter and an ON one. Rural and regional conservatives would view the unapologetic environmentalism of the Teals as an existential threat to their livelihoods. The Teals don’t have much of an appeal to a dissatisfied angry working class voter either.
There definitely are some middle class Labor voters who would be tempted by a Teal if they ran in their seat. Some Liberals who might have held out for longer thinking the party could be saved but realise it can’t, could end up flipping. A lot of the “Tree Tory” type Greens might be more at home in a Teal party.
Breaking News: Pocock has named his party The Guardian Australia party.
The party structure is already there in all but name. The Australia Institute feeds them policy positions and the waspy inner city rich fund their campaigns.
Telling in that interview he said the “independents” all get together to discuss issues and then froze up when pushed to confirm it would come to a party structure.
Right now the teals are being propped by the Holmes A Courts of the country and the policy structures of the dennisses of the country to create a left leaning populist one nation structure that has little to no political integrity but sounds good on the soundbites to drive influence and hollow out the left side of politics at the expense of labor
They want a US style Democratic Party movement to erode the labor party and kill the only party in the world that has direct representation from unions and worker rights advocates. It’s sickening to see the corporate media allow the frog to boil this way