Love the fact they mostly tried removing the tax on all the trash food and not the actual qualiy goods 😂
FigureMost1687 on
i think its time for ford to go , looks like he is not reading the room anymore …
MarkRJ on
The bill was supported by everyone except the PCs,.. Doug “For the People” Ford..
Strict_Common6871 on
“certain food items” are pop, snacks, sweets, donuts, rotisserie chicken and other healthy and nutritious food, including sold in vending machines. Model ONDP voter is an overweight teenager who cannot cook, no wonder it is so popular on reddit and nowhere else
uglylilkid on
As a NDP supporter, good that this bill was defeated. We need to increase the tax on unhealthy junk food.
gianni_ on
What a horrible human beings Doug Ford and his slogs are
Aggressive-Map-2204 on
I dont know why they decided to vote it down but this bill is actually a horrible idea. We should not be encouraging people to buy prepared food. If people want to make terrible eating choices thats on them but dont make it easier. The bill was also far to broad on what it would be removing HST from. We should not ever be removing the tax from chips, pop, and other snack foods.
It is almost always going to be cheaper and far healthier to make food from scratch. If you want to help people encourage them to make healthy choices.
Enigma2387 on
I get it for certain things.
Should a person with a busy schedule such as a single parent have to pay HST on a hot prepared rotisserie chicken when someone who has the time to cook the same chicken at home not have to pay?
HST also applies to a box of 5 granola bars or a package of 4 or 5 muffins but not on packages of 6 or more so you’re penalized for buying smaller portions. If you’re a single person, including those on a fixed income, maybe you only want to buy 4 muffins at a time and you have to pay tax whereas the person who buys a 6 pack doesn’t.
Levorotatory on
Regardless of your view on whether the items should be taxed, making the list of provincially taxed items different from the federal list is adding pointless complication and defeating the purpose of using HST rather than separate GST and PST.
Red57872 on
Sigh…such deceptive reporting. What it doesn’t mention is the other part of the bill, which said
*”****2*** *(1) The Minister of Public and Business Service Delivery and Procurement shall, as part of the plan, take all necessary steps to develop and introduce legislation to,*
*(a) declare void any restrictive covenants, exclusivity clauses and other controls on real property that have the effect of limiting and controlling competition among food retailers in Ontario;*
*(b) prohibit the use of the controls on real property described in clause (a); and*
*(c) impose penalties for contravening the prohibitions.”*
This would have been a legal nightmare. Here’s an idea; if you want to cut the HST on certain food items, include that part in a separate bill.
CrucialObservations on
All taxes should be removed from essentials; that is, all food, clothing, footwear, phones, communication,home heating etc, etc, etc.
Governments are too big and revenue-hungry and need to be trimmed way down. I pay in total more than half my income to the different levels of hungry government who are living the high life and to fund their big plans that don’t seem to account for all of us regular folks. We exist for one reason, and that is to pay whatever rate of taxes they dictate. Whether I am here or not makes no difference to them at all; they will just fill the vacant space with another tax payer.
Tola76 on
Are we talking about the prepared food tax?
Previous_Platform718 on
Quebec just did the same thing as what is being proposed here, and in the end the data shows the average family will save about 1-2 dollars per grocery trip while the government will lose out on millions of dollars in revenue. It’s actually not worth it.
tenroy6 on
Ndp needs to be ontario premier so bad and pretty much nothing else at this point
Zealousideal_Rise879 on
“How could the federal liberals do this”
Born_Ad_4868 on
It should be law that any bill that introduces a tax cut, also says how that revenue will be recouped. Either through tax increases, or a reduction in spending. Must be specific, no reduce red tape costs, future investment, blah blah that every politician spews out.
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Love the fact they mostly tried removing the tax on all the trash food and not the actual qualiy goods 😂
i think its time for ford to go , looks like he is not reading the room anymore …
The bill was supported by everyone except the PCs,.. Doug “For the People” Ford..
“certain food items” are pop, snacks, sweets, donuts, rotisserie chicken and other healthy and nutritious food, including sold in vending machines. Model ONDP voter is an overweight teenager who cannot cook, no wonder it is so popular on reddit and nowhere else
As a NDP supporter, good that this bill was defeated. We need to increase the tax on unhealthy junk food.
What a horrible human beings Doug Ford and his slogs are
I dont know why they decided to vote it down but this bill is actually a horrible idea. We should not be encouraging people to buy prepared food. If people want to make terrible eating choices thats on them but dont make it easier. The bill was also far to broad on what it would be removing HST from. We should not ever be removing the tax from chips, pop, and other snack foods.
It is almost always going to be cheaper and far healthier to make food from scratch. If you want to help people encourage them to make healthy choices.
I get it for certain things.
Should a person with a busy schedule such as a single parent have to pay HST on a hot prepared rotisserie chicken when someone who has the time to cook the same chicken at home not have to pay?
HST also applies to a box of 5 granola bars or a package of 4 or 5 muffins but not on packages of 6 or more so you’re penalized for buying smaller portions. If you’re a single person, including those on a fixed income, maybe you only want to buy 4 muffins at a time and you have to pay tax whereas the person who buys a 6 pack doesn’t.
Regardless of your view on whether the items should be taxed, making the list of provincially taxed items different from the federal list is adding pointless complication and defeating the purpose of using HST rather than separate GST and PST.
Sigh…such deceptive reporting. What it doesn’t mention is the other part of the bill, which said
*”****2*** *(1) The Minister of Public and Business Service Delivery and Procurement shall, as part of the plan, take all necessary steps to develop and introduce legislation to,*
*(a) declare void any restrictive covenants, exclusivity clauses and other controls on real property that have the effect of limiting and controlling competition among food retailers in Ontario;*
*(b) prohibit the use of the controls on real property described in clause (a); and*
*(c) impose penalties for contravening the prohibitions.”*
This would have been a legal nightmare. Here’s an idea; if you want to cut the HST on certain food items, include that part in a separate bill.
All taxes should be removed from essentials; that is, all food, clothing, footwear, phones, communication,home heating etc, etc, etc.
Governments are too big and revenue-hungry and need to be trimmed way down. I pay in total more than half my income to the different levels of hungry government who are living the high life and to fund their big plans that don’t seem to account for all of us regular folks. We exist for one reason, and that is to pay whatever rate of taxes they dictate. Whether I am here or not makes no difference to them at all; they will just fill the vacant space with another tax payer.
Are we talking about the prepared food tax?
Quebec just did the same thing as what is being proposed here, and in the end the data shows the average family will save about 1-2 dollars per grocery trip while the government will lose out on millions of dollars in revenue. It’s actually not worth it.
Ndp needs to be ontario premier so bad and pretty much nothing else at this point
“How could the federal liberals do this”
It should be law that any bill that introduces a tax cut, also says how that revenue will be recouped. Either through tax increases, or a reduction in spending. Must be specific, no reduce red tape costs, future investment, blah blah that every politician spews out.